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Itís Time for Conservatives to Stop Defending Police
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Posted on 07/22/2014 9:32:19 PM PDT by chessplayer

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1 posted on 07/22/2014 9:32:19 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Quit that a very long time ago.


2 posted on 07/22/2014 9:35:42 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: chessplayer

Not falling for it “chess player” or whoever the original author is.
I will support the peace keepers and enforcers until they are no longer law abiding. Bad cops are like homos; a small percentage of them make the rest of their kind look bad. Mthe vast majority are good guys so go try your divisive message on another conservative website.


3 posted on 07/22/2014 9:38:46 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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What about the large number of cops that see the average, law-abiding citizen as the enemy?


4 posted on 07/22/2014 9:42:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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"What about the large number of cops that see the average, law-abiding citizen as the enemy?"

Please provide a solid, fact based source.

6 posted on 07/22/2014 9:43:42 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: jsanders2001; chessplayer

I’m not buying it either.


7 posted on 07/22/2014 9:44:13 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: chessplayer

Cast out the baby with the bath water, shall we?

Most cops are good people who believe in what they do and try to make their communities better and safer.

Are there too many who don’t serve for the right reasons? Sure. But that is true of many honorable professions.

I do, and will, support my local force. That doesn’t mean standing up for the bad apples and it doesn’t mean blind obedience.

The politicians by and large remain the problem.


8 posted on 07/22/2014 9:45:16 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: chessplayer
My support ended when they went here:

I think tea party people at the local level should support revising rules of engagement for the militarized police, and change training back to being a police officer rather than a assault force. Its pretty easy to campaign against shooting puppies.

9 posted on 07/22/2014 9:47:05 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Of possible interest.


11 posted on 07/22/2014 9:49:23 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Respond Code Three

I’ve run into a number of them over my life. Plus, we have more SWAT teams than ever that are used about 40,000 or more times a year for the most minor of violations of the law when they were intended to be used for only the most dangerous situations.


12 posted on 07/22/2014 9:50:27 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Respond Code Three

How about the ever-increasing number of dogs being shot and killed by them? You must be a big proponent of that, right?


13 posted on 07/22/2014 9:51:30 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: jsanders2001
The majority are good guys. The consequences of a run-in with the wrong one however, can be fatal. Police are the branch of the government authorized to use deadly force against you solely on the basis of their own discretion. No due process, no lawyers, no court hearings, no nothing.

If you wait until "they are no longer law abiding," at least your family may be able to make some money off a wrongful death suit.

Police are the reason George Washington observed that "Government is like fire, a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

14 posted on 07/22/2014 9:52:40 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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I think cops used to do their jobs, use minimum force and respect citizens much more. I wasn’t ashamed in the least to support cops and always give them the benefit of the doubt.

Anyone dissing the cops? That person is a criminal!

Charlton Heston publicly balled out Ice Tea for his anti-cop rhetoric, and I felt as Moses did.

Now? I’m not so sure. Use of force Is Cool and the cops have tats and listen to the same rap that their customers do.

The cops lost the dignity they once had and I’m studiously neutral to them now.


15 posted on 07/22/2014 9:54:13 PM PDT by gaijin
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There will always be the good and the bad in any profession. Having said that, the bad seeds who find their way into positions of trust like law enforcement are the worst of the worst in terms of the harm they can cause.

I’m a police officer. I have seen fine, upstanding officers railroaded and I’ve seen ones who are like Satan himself skate on everything they do. And I am sure most everyone here has seen that phenomenon in whatever line of work you are in, it just is more dangerous in this one.


16 posted on 07/22/2014 9:54:16 PM PDT by KJC1 (When you are dealing with the devil, the only answer is God.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I was pretty much unconditional in my support of LEO’s, until all the dog shootings. And they seem to have become too militarized.


17 posted on 07/22/2014 9:54:56 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: BlueNgold

That doesn’t mean standing up for the bad apples and it doesn’t mean blind obedience.

You don’t have to. The rest of the cops will do that.


18 posted on 07/22/2014 9:55:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Respond Code Three

Would you like me to post an endless number of articles of police abusing their power to the point of murder?


19 posted on 07/22/2014 9:55:35 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: jsanders2001
Bad cops are like homos; a small percentage of them make the rest of their kind look bad.

Let's correct that a little bit.. Bad court rulings allow bad cops to get off with their brutality. Shoot a kid holding an airsoft rifle? Totally immune from prosecution because 'police hold a special status; it is expected that failure to immediately follow police directives is in itself an indication of life threatening danger.' Think the worst case in Robocop; you have five seconds to comply before your life is ended.

So, yes, I support the police. I also support holding them (and every public employee) to the same laws and regulations that I must endure. I expect them to face the same prosecution for shooting someone that I would face if I had done the deed.

Bad laws, bad court decisions, make for bad cops.

20 posted on 07/22/2014 9:57:01 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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