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Britain's Lost Freedoms: 'We're Living in a Madhouse'
CBN News I ^ | Tuesday, July 08, 2014 | Dale Hurd

Posted on 07/11/2014 3:49:21 PM PDT by robowombat

Britain's Lost Freedoms: 'We're Living in a Madhouse'

By Dale Hurd CBN News Sr. Reporter Tuesday, July 08, 2014

LONDON - America owes much of its freedom to its British heritage. But today, Britain is losing its freedom.

Many Americans were stunned when British authorities arrested Liberty Great Britain party leader Paul Weston in April for publicly reciting Winston Churchill's criticism of Islam.

The calendar might say it's 2014, but in Britain it's starting to feel like George Orwell's "1984" because "Big Brother" has decided that certain things can no longer be said.

Arrested over Churchill

Weston quoted from Winston Churchill's book, The River War, in which he wrote:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith."

As a young officer, Churchill fought Muslim jihadists in Sudan and believed Islam was a dangerous religion.

Weston chose to publicly quote Churchill because he thought that in today's politically correct Britain, comparing Islam to rabies--as Churchill did--would likely get him reported to police and arrested.

It did.

"I wanted to make the point that, if it's really become so bad in this country that you can no longer quote the words of the greatest living Englishman, then we really need to look seriously at what we can still say in this country," Weston said.

"We don't have (America's) First Amendment. And speech is rapidly becoming a no-go area if you talk about certain issues. We are living in an absolute madhouse in this country with our free speech laws at the moment," he said.

'You Can't Say That'

In today's Britain, pastors, street evangelists, and political activists all risk being hauled into police stations and either being arrested or warned for speaking out against Islam, immigration, or homosexuality.

British evangelical Pastor James McConnell was questioned by Belfast police for a possible hate crime after a controversial sermon. He spoke about the danger to Britain from radical Islam in which he said, "Islam is heathen. Islam is Satanic. Islam is a doctrine spawned in Hell."

McConnell said he went to the police station voluntarily, and he also apologized. But should he have had to?

"He was expressing a view about a particular religion. You can't have freedom of religion without the freedom to have religious views about particular religions," George Igler, with the Discourse Institute, said of the McConnell case.

It's clear that British pastors have to watch what they say.

Simon Calvert, with The Christian Institute, a legal defense organization, assured CBN News that pastors are still able to preach the whole Bible without being arrested. But he still had some concerns to add.

"There have been some distinct problems in recent years. We have seen a number of cases, typically involving street preachers, of people being told by the police, effectively, 'You can't say that,'" Calvert said.

Law Against Insults

American street evangelist Tony Miano was arrested in Scotland earlier this year for allegedly using 'offensive' language while preaching against sexual immorality.

Police eventually dropped the charges against Miano. Police also dropped the charges against Weston.

But arrests and warnings still have what legal experts call "a chilling effect" on free speech.

Calvert said the speech situation in Britain improved greatly this year with the reform of Section 5 of the Public Order Act, in which insulting someone could be a criminal offense.

He said the law is "every bit as crazy as it sounds. And that law against insults was being used to clamp down on street preachers preaching the gospel."

The law against "insult" was removed from Section 5, but other laws against offending people remain.

"We've made such a big deal out of causing offense," said Anne Marie Waters, a UKIP candidate and head of the website, Shariawatch UK.

"What if you deserve to be offended? Self-censorship is a big problem in Britain. People are afraid to speak. So, in that respect, freedom of speech has been seriously compromised. (Britons are) afraid to say what they think," Waters said.

Britain 'Free' or No?

The experts we interviewed disagreed over whether Britain still has "free speech."

Calvert said it does. However, Weston and Igler agree that when important political and religious speech is blocked, there is no free speech.

"We're ultimately moving toward a situation where, necessarily, the state will have to tell us what kinds of opinions are acceptable and what opinions are not," Igler said.

Weston said he will continue to test Britain's speech laws, to show that speech is longer free.

"You are not going to shut me up. I am going to say it," he said. "If you put me in prison, fine. That's how bad it is now."


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Coming soon to the US.
1 posted on 07/11/2014 3:49:22 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
, if it's really become so bad in this country that you can no longer quote the words of the greatest living Englishman

I hate to break this sad news to you, Dear Watson...... but Winston Churchill is dead.

2 posted on 07/11/2014 3:54:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: robowombat

And, when it comes to defense of the home in England, your television, (and anything else in the house) can be brazenly stolen while you are watching it.


3 posted on 07/11/2014 3:54:28 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: robowombat

Already here in a defacto sense. The reaction of the looney tunes libs uses lots of extreme tactics to chill and silence voices the don’t want heard.


4 posted on 07/11/2014 3:55:49 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: robowombat
Sure you can say anything you want, but derogatory Muslim comments are a hate crime and are not covered under the 1st. That is the play.
5 posted on 07/11/2014 3:55:52 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: robowombat
"We don't have (America's) First Amendment. And speech is rapidly becoming a no-go area if you talk about certain issues.

Well, my friend, we may have the First Amendment, but the same is true here nowadays.

6 posted on 07/11/2014 3:58:19 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: robowombat

“Islam is heathen. Islam is Satanic. Islam is a doctrine spawned in Hell.”

My thoughts exactly!!


7 posted on 07/11/2014 4:02:46 PM PDT by Isabel2010
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To: robowombat

This ship has sailed.


8 posted on 07/11/2014 4:06:56 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: robowombat

There is no England now.


9 posted on 07/11/2014 4:09:46 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: robowombat
America owes much of its freedom to its British heritage.

It owes more to its 2nd Amendment, which itself may be insufficient to guarantee liberty will survive if people are afraid to exercise it. Britain is in even greater danger for the lack of a RKBA.

10 posted on 07/11/2014 4:10:59 PM PDT by LibWhacker (A New WPA: Hire blacks to surround illegal enclaves and round up job-stealing illegal aliens)
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It owes the second amendment to its British heritage too. Google clause 7 on the 1689 bill of rights.


11 posted on 07/11/2014 4:14:21 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: robowombat

Coming soon?

It’s here (see IRS scandal, Obama’s border gag orders, etc)


12 posted on 07/11/2014 4:39:19 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Isabel2010

Yep. The Koran is the demonic trance-state utterances of a man possesed by either the devil himself or one of his demons.


13 posted on 07/11/2014 4:45:30 PM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: robowombat

“America owes much of its freedom to its British heritage.”

Yeah. Thank you, redcoats, for fighting against us and enforcing the kings tyrannical edicts.

You still want a map of west point? I can mail you a copy.


14 posted on 07/11/2014 5:09:08 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: robowombat

Britain has invited the jihadis in, and is giving them special privileges.
No different from what’s happening in the USA.


15 posted on 07/11/2014 5:12:13 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: robowombat

Created by the people who voted the party ...


16 posted on 07/11/2014 5:23:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Isabel2010

Eventually Christains are going to have to stand up and fight, literally, the satanic Islamic cult. War is coming and you need to be armed and ready. Obama and his fellow Islamic terrorist know it and that is why he wants to take away our guns, ammo, and every other freedom he can think of. I just hope that before my time is up I see the end of Isalam and the return of America to the principles on which it was founded. The end of the democrat party would be icing on the cake.


17 posted on 07/11/2014 5:45:06 PM PDT by TonyM
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To: robowombat
We won't be seeing any of these posters

18 posted on 07/11/2014 7:25:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: robowombat
Coming soon to the US.

I do not doubt that this menace of political correctness, which has sunk fear into honest men is a looming possibility. I will quote William Pitt, Earl of Chatham who opposed the attack of America. This invasion was at the behest of George 111, born of German parents and descended from the German monarchs.

William Pitt the Elder to the Parliament, circa 1777.

You cannot, I venture to say it, you cannot conquer America. If foreign troops landed in my country I would never lay down my arms, never, never, never.

He was referring to the mercenaries from Germany called the Hessians who supported British troops. What I am trying to say, is that quoting Edmund Burke :

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Surely these politically correct (expletive) manipulative swines can be cut off at the pass, so to speak.

19 posted on 07/11/2014 7:44:56 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: B4Ranch
Quite the eye opener and thanks for the post.

We will all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang apart.


Benjamin Franklin.

20 posted on 07/11/2014 7:48:16 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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