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Why We Stuck With Maliki -- And Lost Iraq [Important read!!]
Washington Post ^ | 07/05/2014 | Ali Khedery

Posted on 07/05/2014 1:37:03 PM PDT by Enchante

Edited on 07/05/2014 1:40:25 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

To understand why Iraq is imploding, you must understand Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki — and why the United States has supported him since 2006.

I have known Maliki, or Abu Isra, as he is known to people close to him, for more than a decade. I have traveled across three continents with him. I know his family and his inner circle. When Maliki was an obscure member of parliament, I was among the very few Americans in Baghdad who took his phone calls. In 2006, I helped introduce him to the U.S. ambassador, recommending him as a promising option for prime minister. In 2008, I organized his medevac when he fell ill, and I accompanied him for treatment in London, spending 18 hours a day with him at Wellington Hospital. In 2009, I lobbied skeptical regional royals to support Maliki’s government.

By 2010, however, I was urging the vice president of the United States and the White House senior staff to withdraw their support for Maliki. I had come to realize that if he remained in office, he would create a divisive, despotic and sectarian government that would rip the country apart and devastate American interests.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: biden; delusion; democrats; forbeforeagainst; foritbeforeagainstit; hillary; iraq; iraqmeltdown; isis; liberals; maliki; mentaldisorder; middleeast; obama; terror; terrorism; wot
Obama, Hillary, Biden, et al. have totally pissed away all gains in Iraq.

What we have now is the worst of outcomes, a client state of Iran that will support terrorism more than ever.

Thing was won before Obozo took office.... it was difficult, but it was on the right track more or less.

Now Obama and co. have wasted all those US lives and treasure.

This article pretty much ignores the fact that HILLARY was the Secretary of State during the developing fiasco, and she accomplished nothing but lead us to disaster. If/when she runs for President this needs to be laid at her door, along with Libya, Syria, Egypt, and all of her other disasters.

1 posted on 07/05/2014 1:37:03 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

We didn't stick with Maleki
Oboozo did !!
..and he would screw up a one car funeral !!


2 posted on 07/05/2014 1:39:00 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: Enchante

Val Jarrett (born in Tehran) had Obama give Iraq to Iran. Now the Saudi Sunnis are striking back the old fashioned way - Jihad. That is why Obama is paralyzed and doing nothing.


3 posted on 07/05/2014 1:40:30 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Enchante

I don’t think we should waste one more dollar or life on these scumbags — Maliki and friends have clearly cast their lot with the Iranians.

For sure, we should NOT let Iraq have any further access to US arms and especially not to our technologies. We must now operate on the assumption that anything we let into the hands of the Iraqi govt. or military is shared with Iran.

We sure as hell should not let them have F-16s or any missile, guidance, drone, and radar technologies of any sort (it may be too kate..).


4 posted on 07/05/2014 1:41:18 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

Already posted two days ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3175832/posts


6 posted on 07/05/2014 1:43:41 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: FlyingEagle

may sound strange, but I think that the only path is to ease Russia back in there, especially for arms supplies — because we must not let Iraq/Iran have any more US arms and technologies.

Russia would often act against our interests, of course, but it’s better than giving Iran free reign.... which is what Obozo-Jarrett-Hillary-Biden have done.

I’d sure rather see Iraq/Iran with Russian arms than give/sell them ours.

....and Russia would be at least a partial counter-weight to Iran, more than we can be now that Obama has blown it.


7 posted on 07/05/2014 1:46:43 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Hostage

hmm I searched and it did not come up


8 posted on 07/05/2014 1:47:16 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

Russia controls Iran, (and via Al Quds, Iraq), and Syria - all Shiite muslim world centers. Russia is a good counterweight to Saudi - the Sunni center and funder of ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood, and Al Queda and of course Obama is Sunni as is H Clintons Aide Ms Abdeen.


9 posted on 07/05/2014 1:53:53 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Enchante

But...wasn’t he democratically elected by the people of Iraq? By removing him or supporting his removal, would the U.S. not be engaging in serious hypocrisy against the very ideals it is supposed to be promoting in Iraq?


10 posted on 07/05/2014 2:01:36 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
no, he lost his campaign for re-election and has been maintained in power by fraud, legal corruption, and force of arms. Per the article,
With the Obama administration vowing to end Bush’s “dumb war,” and the continued distraction of the global economic crisis, Maliki seized an opportunity. He began a systematic campaign to destroy the Iraqi state and replace it with his private office and his political party. He sacked professional generals and replaced them with those personally loyal to him. He coerced Iraq’s chief justice to bar some of his rivals from participating in the elections in March 2010. After the results were announced and Maliki lost to a moderate, pro-Western coalition encompassing all of Iraq’s major ethno-sectarian groups, the judge issued a ruling that awarded Maliki the first chance to form a government, ushering in more tensions and violence.

11 posted on 07/05/2014 2:06:15 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante
Dude! Quit with the deep analysis nonsense. You are dealing with a culture that thinks it's fine to sell your nine year old daughter to some 60 year old goat humper that lives in a tent in the dessert as long as he provides you with a few goats he has not actually diddled himself. Sharia actually has laws against eating goats you have had sexual intercourse with. Apparently that's what even these barbarians consider "Over the Top".
12 posted on 07/05/2014 2:06:47 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Desron13

Good points!

What a cesspool....


13 posted on 07/05/2014 2:08:26 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante
...He began a systematic campaign to destroy the [...] state and replace it with his private office and his political party. He sacked professional generals and replaced them with those personally loyal to him. He coerced Iraq’s chief justice to bar some of his rivals from participating in the elections...

Sounds like someone else we know...

14 posted on 07/05/2014 2:17:05 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Enchante

Vince Fosters murder??
Smearing of ALL Bills problem ladies?
The les bean rumors?
Come on man, so much to get personal with this babe.


15 posted on 07/05/2014 2:17:10 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Enchante
Obama, Hillary, Biden, et al. have totally pissed away all gains in Iraq.

Completely intentional.

Democrats can't allow anything of lasting military value be accomplished by a Republican president.

Did you know they're changing the name of NYC's Triboro Bridge to the "RFK bridge" ?

Democrats name everything that can be named after themselves.

They're in the process of re-writing the history of the Cold War to keep credit away from Ronald Reagan.

16 posted on 07/05/2014 2:22:27 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Enchante
Enchante. Been a few years. Hope you are well.
I bookmarked the compost article for more in depth reading
as time goes by. Sure brings back so many things we all
posted during those pre-surge days then through the surge.
17 posted on 07/05/2014 2:23:16 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Marine_Uncle

ping

Great Article


18 posted on 07/05/2014 2:33:37 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: Enchante

Why is it a bad thing if Sunnis are engaged full-time in destructing the Shi’ites, and the Shi’ites are returning the affection? When both sides are devoting their time, treasure and manpower to this worthy goal (eliminating Muslims from earthly existence), they are much less likely to be spending resources to promote mischief against the West in general and America in particular.

When any kind of assistance is extended to any regime that supports militant Islamic Jihad, or uses it for their gain in influence in the world, then that only works to the disadvantage of the rest of the world that happens NOT to be Muslim. Muslims do not share power once they gain it. They are the ultimate “My way or the highway” people, except then they go out and blow up the highway.


19 posted on 07/05/2014 2:48:15 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
RE: "Great Article."
I didn't see anything sticking out that would cause me
to dispute what was written.
20 posted on 07/05/2014 3:01:24 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Enchante

bfl


21 posted on 07/05/2014 4:08:29 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Enchante

I read this, this morning. It is an excellent article and read. Maliki needs to go and sooner is better. He has used his position as a means to settle his grudges and hatred for Sunni and the former baathists. Until he goes of his own accord or thrown out the current situation will not settle down. Once it does, the marginalized Sunni tribes will kick ISIS to the curb . The Sunni and a fair amount of the Iraqi Shia are fed up with Iran’s hands in the country. Currently a moderate Shia leader in Karbela is urging with his tribal influence against the Mullahs call for rising to the call of Militia. At some point the west is going to need to kill the ISIS. But with only 20% ISIS as estimated in the Iraq group revolting, we need to be careful to stay out. The big mistake was by Obama and company not supporting Allawi. He’s a decent moderate, friend of the US (or was prior to zero. We should have got that status of forces agreement and kept 10,000 troops in Iraq, which would have been to our own benefit, as history is showing us.


22 posted on 07/05/2014 5:25:29 PM PDT by Trapper6012
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To: Enchante

“he would create a divisive, despotic and sectarian government that would rip the country apart and devastate American interests.”

So will the next muzzie leader... and the next one... and the next one...


23 posted on 07/05/2014 5:43:58 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Enchante.


24 posted on 07/05/2014 8:32:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Marine_Uncle

heyyy Marine_Uncle, yes it’s been too long, I haven’t been around much.... hope to start changing that.....


25 posted on 07/05/2014 9:00:39 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: alloysteel

I’m all for Sunni-Shi’a mutual destruction if they would really limit it to each other, but I think that disorder in Iraq (1) gives Iran much better prospects for moving toward a dominant role in the region, and (2) anywhere that large numbers of Islamist fanatics are schooled in fighting and terrorist techniques increases the chances that they will spill out into other countries over time, as Al Qaeda formed in Afghanistan etc.

I think we’d be better off seeing a stable Iraq that is not a puppet of Iran, but the time for that may already be passed. Obozo and company screwed the pooch, on this as in so many other ways.


26 posted on 07/05/2014 9:04:18 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante
RE: "hope to start changing that....."
HIS will be done. Hang in there John.
27 posted on 07/05/2014 9:38:03 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Enchante

Bush’s fault. So says the MSM.

Obama just ‘inherited the situation.’


28 posted on 07/06/2014 12:35:13 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Enchante

Russia seems to be on a big hegemony mission - one can only imagine the way the Bear exerts its power if it is successful in its endeavors. Doesn’t seem to be any graceful path to follow so I’ll go along with your flow for now.


29 posted on 07/06/2014 2:12:41 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Enchante
...has been maintained in power by fraud, legal corruption

Has much in common with Obama's second term.

30 posted on 07/06/2014 6:55:54 AM PDT by faszakutya
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To: Enchante

It came right up. I using GChrome. Sometimes things don’t show with my normal provider service explorer.


31 posted on 07/06/2014 7:26:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Illegal immigrants = Instant new democrat voters!)
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To: Enchante
Re: “Why We Stuck With Maliki — And Lost Iraq”

I was under the impression we “stuck” with him because he was the democratically elected leader of Iraq!

32 posted on 07/06/2014 11:06:23 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Trapper6012

Spot on. Max Boot said this as well.

I mean Iyad Allawi is no Abraham Lincoln, but he’s leaps and bounds better than any other leader in the Arab world, plus it would have been good to see a democratic change of power there to shake things up.


33 posted on 07/06/2014 12:34:01 PM PDT by ksm1
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To: Enchante

Great article from the Washington Post. Kind of surprising, coming from a liberal newspaper.


34 posted on 07/06/2014 2:19:06 PM PDT by paristexas
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To: Enchante

No .....we stuck with islum and lost Iraq.

Once we allowed their constitution to state “NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM”, we should have left.

Iraq’s number one religious leader is Sistani, born in Iran.
60 percent are Shiites, like 90 percent in Iran.

Today Iraq is just WEST IRAN.


35 posted on 07/06/2014 8:56:27 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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So in 2010, Iran started throwing it’s weight around in Iraq. Maliki sided with Iran, and the Obama admin. turned a blind eye, although they were warned otherwise. Ok

Why does the Obama administration, along with the media, now pretend that Iran is going to be of benefit to Iraq and the US with a “new alliance”? I think if the media didn’t constantly regurgitate White House baffling talking points, things would make more sense.

Obama’s received cheering endorsements by Chavez and Ahmadinejad which should have sounded the alarm bells years ago. The media didn’t blink.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uf-VuRtdqQ

““Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury”. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Obama has been partial to Iran since he was elected
US allows Iran its nuclear vision
THE AUSTRALIAN APRIL 03, 2010
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/us-allows-iran-its-nuclear-vision/story-e6frg6zo-1225849035756?nk=320aa1b879530d8e35eefa3a74a334f1

“Criminal plans” by Iran could be under way in Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay Suriname and Trinidad and Tobago, the report said.

“They are more involved in the cocaine trade than ever before, and have greater access in the region due their allies in Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia and elsewhere,” Farah said. “ CNN 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/world/americas/iran-latin-america/

Radical Islamic terrorists groups are tied to Hezbollah, which was formed and funded by Iran. The US government knows very well that Hezbollah is working throughout South America and Canada “America’s back yard”. Iran is dangerous, and suddenly the sanctions in place against Iran are meaningless as American defense contractors, and “green” energy companies are selling to Iran? Baffling doesn’t quite describe it.


36 posted on 07/07/2014 5:55:34 AM PDT by mgist (.)
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Nov. 2013 Breitbart

Last week, the Times of Israel reported that senior presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett had been leading talks with Iran in secret for a year before the formal negotiations in Geneva this month. While the White House denied the report “100 percent,” the existence of back-channel talks has been confirmed by other reporting. The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that President Barack Obama had “personally overseen” the talks.


37 posted on 07/07/2014 5:59:08 AM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: zeestephen
no, as the article describes, he has kept himself in power by anti-democratic measures and LOST the popular vote in the 2010 election:
"[Maliki] coerced Iraq’s chief justice to bar some of his rivals from participating in the elections in March 2010. After the results were announced and Maliki lost to a moderate, pro-Western coalition encompassing all of Iraq’s major ethno-sectarian groups, the judge issued a ruling that awarded Maliki the first chance to form a government, ushering in more tensions and violence"

38 posted on 07/12/2014 2:10:43 PM PDT by Enchante
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Yes, Ali Khedery’s editorial does claim that Maliki stole the election.

However, I can't recall hearing anything about that from the Obama administration in 2010.

Only now, 4 years later, after Al-Qaeda has seized one third of Iraq during Obama’s watch, have the MSM and the State Department decided they need a fall guy who is not named Obama.

Also, the fact that Maliki’s minority party succeeded in forming a government did not depend on going first.

Maliki would have been doing exactly the same coalition building and favor trading no matter who went first.

Finally, as far as I know, Maliki has never lost a no confidence vote, so he must be doing something right.

39 posted on 07/12/2014 10:30:33 PM PDT by zeestephen
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