To them, there is no "earned it" if they think they have to pay for part of it. They do not care how much we paid into it with years of income, blood, whatever.
All they care about is getting out from under it.
Many of those are Libertarian/Ayn Rand fan-boy Paulestinian Rontards. Others are people that were “too busy” to serve, like Mr. Obama and many others. I could give a $#*+ what they think about what you and I did.
“If you listen to a few of the gen-x/y/z FReepers, you/me are just as big a leech as the inner city zombies with Obunga-foams. To them, there is no “earned it” if they think they have to pay for part of it. They do not care how much we paid into it with years of income, blood, whatever.All they care about is getting out from under it.”
It’s sad, but true, and I’m afraid the tension is going to get worse as the pie shrinks and everyone finds it harder to survive. It’s going to get very ugly over the next few years and the safest thing to do will be to count on yourself and the friends and family around you and prepare for the worst.
Much of the American “economy” right now is the land of the dying or the living dead.
” All they care about is getting out from under it. “
Can you blame them - system will be even worse (probably non-existent) for them. They’re basically pouring their income into a black hole.
“All they care about is getting out from under it.”
Yup. Because they realize that they’re not going to be able to pay for it, and being in a perpetual state of peonage to try to do so isn’t all that attractive to anyone. The relative merit of the past or current recipients doesn’t enter into it. Your tax bill doesn’t come as individual earmarks to the veteran Joe or the welfare mama Sally. It comes as one bill.
Frankly, I think the debate is academic. The younger folks simply aren’t going to pick up the tab. On the one hand they lack the ability thanks to 2 plus decades of middle class destroying policies. On the other hand they lack the willingness to pay for mistakes they had no part in making.
No way, no how was the answer.
Now we're "leeches" of course.
As far as military retirement/disability those are earned IMO and should never be touched except to crack down on those who scam the system (applies mostly to the disability side).
Social Security on the other hand has been distorted from it’s original intent of a supplimental income. There are people today who think that SS should be a livable income that pays as much if not more than their salary was before they retired.
Social Security to an extent is earned BUT people are getting more out now than they paid in, and that’s not even counting those who have yet to pay one red cent into it but still draw checks such as scammers, illegals and professional sofa anchors.