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Divers begin Lake Michigan expedition to find fabled Griffin ship
FoxNews.com ^ | June 16, 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/24/2014 4:53:36 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

ON LAKE MICHIGAN NEAR POVERTY ISLAND, Mich. – In a remote part of northern Lake Michigan, divers have started looking at an underwater pit, hoping to find the resting place of the Griffin, a ship commanded by the 17th century French explorer La Salle.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: chitchat; godsgravesglyphs; griffin; lakemichigan; michigan; povertyisland; shipwreck

1 posted on 06/24/2014 4:53:36 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
I thought they had found this ship a few years back.

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2 posted on 06/24/2014 4:58:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: WhiskeyX
It was crazy that the Belle was found many years back. It was persistence and that old gut feeling.

These guys are pretty certain...but they were pretty certain a couple years back, too....and they're very close to that site.

I have a feeling that these guys have some (undiscovered) writings that are telling them to stay in that area....and that gut feeling.

We'll see.

I've always thought the Griffin sailed south to near the southern end of Michigan, the crew stole the furs and sunk the ship. Mutiny was so "in".

3 posted on 06/24/2014 5:18:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Thanks cripplecreek.

4 posted on 06/28/2014 10:29:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: WhiskeyX

...Michigan Department of Natural Resources...claims ow
nership over all Great Lakes shipwrecks in the state’s waters, although it acknowledges France would have rights to the Griffin because it was sailing under the authority of King Louis XIV.

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Why would France still have rights to it after all of this time? Would it not be considered abandoned?


5 posted on 06/28/2014 6:12:13 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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“Why would France still have rights to it after all this time?”
Admiralty law. Basically government ownership trumps private ownership.


6 posted on 06/28/2014 6:36:07 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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Sunken LaSalle exploration ship thought to be found north of Green Bay in Lake Michigan.

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7 posted on 06/28/2014 6:38:29 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Cold Heart

Admiralty law. Okay, thank you for that information. I learn so much from the many smart FReepers here.


8 posted on 06/29/2014 8:21:32 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Bigg Red

“Why would France still have rights to it after all of this time? Would it not be considered abandoned?”

See the following Webpage for the full story:

Sunken Warships and Military Aircraft
by J. Ashley Roach, Captain, JAGC, U.S. Navy (Ret.), Office of the Legal Adviser, U.S. Department of State.
http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org12-7j.htm

“Warships, naval auxiliaries, and other vessels owned or operated by a State and used at the time they sank only on government non-commercial service, are State vessels.8 Aircraft used in military, customs and police services are State aircraft.9 International law recognizes that State vessels and aircraft, and their associated artifacts, whether or not sunken, are entitled to sovereign immunity.10”


9 posted on 06/29/2014 5:19:18 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Thank you. As I said to the other FReeper, I learn so much from all of the smart FReepers here.


10 posted on 06/29/2014 6:43:59 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: WhiskeyX; SunkenCiv

The Griffin?

11 posted on 06/30/2014 3:04:23 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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