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India closely watching Russian move to sell attack helicopters to Pakistan
The Times of India ^ | Jun 4, 2014 | Rajat Pandit

Posted on 06/04/2014 8:16:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

NEW DELHI: India is closely tracking Russia's move to directly supply Mi-35 attack helicopters to Pakistan by lifting an informal arms embargo. But officials here also say that Russian arms have in any case been surreptitiously finding their way to Pakistan through China for years now.

"Yes, there is some concern here. But then, other countries like the US and France also sell their weaponry to both sides of the line of control. If the French sell Agosta-90B submarines to Pakistan, they sell the Scorpene submarines to us," said a senior defence official.

This comes in the backdrop of Russian Rostec corporation chief Sergei Chemezov declaring in Moscow on Monday that his country had lifted the arms embargo on Pakistan.

"We are negotiating the sales of Mi-35 helicopters to the country (Pakistan)," he said.

Russian ambassador to India, Alexander M Kadakin, on Wednesday however stressed his country would never do anything that would prove "detrimental" to the "deep and strategic" partnership with India.

While holding that there was never any formal arms embargo on Pakistan, he said talks on the supply of the Mi-35s were only at an "initial" stage at present.

Whatever be the case, say Indian officials, Pakistan has been getting Russian equipment ranging from aero-engines for its JF-17 fighters being produced with China to thinly-disguised Chinese variants of Russian radars, guns and the like.

Russia, of course, is piqued by India's conscious effort to increasingly turn to other countries like US, Israel and France for its military requirements since the 1999 Kargil conflict.

Russia has been India's largest defence supplier, with military sales worth over $40 billion since the first MiG-21s in 1963 to the present-day Sukhoi-30MKI fighters.

But the US alone has bagged Indian defence deals close to $10 billion over the last decade. India, in fact, has also selected American AH-64D Apache attack helicopters and Chinook heavy-lift choppers over their Russian rivals, Mi-28 Havocs and Mi-26s, in recent times.

The two contracts for 22 Apache and 15 Chinooks, together worth over $2.4 billion, are however yet to be inked.

India has been upset with Russia's propensity to not stick to delivery schedules, jack up costs mid-way through execution of contracts, create hurdles in transfer of technology and be unreliable about spares.

The long-delayed delivery of aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya (Admiral Gorshkov) as well as the huge jump in its refit cost to $2.33 billion is just one of the examples. But Russia will remain India's major military supplier for the foreseeable future.

Even as IAF progressively inducts the 272 Sukhoi-30MKI fighters ordered for over $12 billion, for instance, India and Russia are also negotiating the final R&D contract to jointly develop the fifth-generation fighter aircraft. If India indeed moves to induct over 200 such "swing-role'' stealth fighters, it will spend close to $35 billion over the next two decades on them.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; helicopter; india; pakistan; russia

1 posted on 06/04/2014 8:16:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Remember how whacked Bush’s foreign policy was? I’m glad that Obama and Hillary have got things under control again. They’ve nearly restored the Pax Americana around he world.


2 posted on 06/04/2014 8:19:20 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I don’t know if Comrade Putin celebrates Christmas but everyday is a holiday for him these days. A weak American president and hapless European heads of state means Putin is like a kid in a candy store. He’s run circles around The One, made an energy deal with China, and now he’s sticking a knife into the side of India by making an arms deal with their mortal enemy. Yeah, I’d say ol Vlad is enjoying himself silly.


3 posted on 06/04/2014 8:28:28 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: sukhoi-30mki

In a weird way, the Indians are probably very happy to see this. They themselves received some Russian military vehicles recently that malfunctioned spectacularly.


4 posted on 06/04/2014 8:29:12 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 1010RD

The new Indian government must just love Barry’s little Taliban swap meet.

Muslims have truly out and out hated the US for maybe some fifty years.

They have despised the Indians for 500, and they hate Hindus more than they hate any religious group, with the possible exception of Jews, which is a subject of debate.

Those released Taliban commanders pose a serious threat to the US. To India, and even some in Pakistan, they are a nightmare come true.


5 posted on 06/04/2014 8:34:17 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: dowcaet

I’m very disappointed. Russia and India are natural allies considering their relations with China.
Too bad that due to a recent isolation Russia is forced to get closer to China which is unnatural and hurts.


6 posted on 06/04/2014 9:09:26 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: sukhoi-30mki

mean-looking helicopter


7 posted on 06/04/2014 9:12:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Looks like a Hind on steroids.


8 posted on 06/04/2014 9:14:18 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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I think that is probably what it was designed to be!


9 posted on 06/04/2014 9:15:04 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Nowhere Man

That is a very long chin/nose cannon


10 posted on 06/04/2014 9:15:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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That’s a Hind sporting an upgrade from a South African company ATE.

http://www.guncopter.com/super-hind/


11 posted on 06/04/2014 9:35:04 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

bump


12 posted on 06/04/2014 9:37:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

AR-Hind


13 posted on 06/04/2014 9:37:52 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nothing much will likely come of this. It is probably the Russians gnashing their teeth about all the equipment India is buying from non-Russian sources i.e. the U.S.,Israel, France & now, probably from Japan. The Pakistanis don’t have much money & the Russians aren’t stupid, they are reasonably good with their math.Nobody will risk $30 billion dollars for some peanuts from Pakistan. Incredibly stupid though on the timing. Don’t think the new Indian government will take kindly to such sabre rattling.


14 posted on 06/05/2014 10:16:18 AM PDT by cold start
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