To: mandaladon
I tire of the lies in these reports.
“Hillstrom was having some sort of psychotic episode”
Cops didn’t just decide to beat a guy to death for no reason.
Maybe they were fully over the top and need prison. Maybe the attempt to stop a psychotic lead to his death and the cops acted professionally.
But to claim no reason is BS.
Communist agitprop has always been to make cops the enemy, so I am skeptical about all these blanket easy condemnations.
Not that cops don’t abuse their position and commit police brutality, but the goal of the Communists and left has always been to slander police and any institution of social order as much as possible to cause mistrust and fear among members of society.
8 posted on
05/15/2014 9:21:41 AM PDT by
ifinnegan
To: ifinnegan
A “psychotic episode” is not justification for deadly force. It may be combined with behavior that justifies deadly force but if he wasn’t hurting anyone then there wasn’t cause.
12 posted on
05/15/2014 9:23:48 AM PDT by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: ifinnegan
“...but the goal of the Communists and left has always been to slander police and any institution of social order as much as possible to cause mistrust and fear among members of society.”
Well, I didn’t know I was a closet Communist! I’ve personally witnessed enough police brutality to come to the independent conclusion that they are often more criminal in their behavior than those they profess to protect us from! Their motto should be “to suppress anyone who gets in our way.” And if by “suppressing you,” you happen to die, tough $hit!
To: ifinnegan
But to claim no reason is BS. Oh, they had a reason.
"Because we can."
21 posted on
05/15/2014 9:32:05 AM PDT by
MileHi
To: ifinnegan; mandaladon
You got it backwards...
History has repeatedly shown the goal of Communists and brutal tyrannical governments is to brutally threaten and intimidate the people to the point where they comply and conform without question and without hesitation.
37 posted on
05/15/2014 9:48:36 AM PDT by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: ifinnegan
They didn’t need to engage if he wasn’t hurting anybody. They could have called the local mental facility as to how to,engage to minimize violence.
39 posted on
05/15/2014 9:49:25 AM PDT by
Jonty30
(What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
To: ifinnegan
agree. police’may have gone too far. but a screwdriver can kill you when stabbed with it. lots of break-in criminals have stabbed people with them. and i wouldn’t doubt in the hands of someone having a psychotic episode they wouldn’t use it as a weapon.
51 posted on
05/15/2014 10:12:29 AM PDT by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
To: ifinnegan; null and void
Null, here’s you a bootlicker, right here, don’t despair!
63 posted on
05/15/2014 12:01:45 PM PDT by
Shimmer1
To: ifinnegan
good post but the cops are bringing a lot of this on their own actions.
Cops are trained to use guns, billy clubs, tasers, and hand to hand combat. Usually they are much larger than the average guy and they have handcuffs. I cannot think of any circumstance where the cops would be justifed in beating someone to death. It is the mentallity that they must get complete submission, regardless of the reality of the situation.
This guy was most likey mentally ill. He could have easily been rendered harmless.
65 posted on
05/15/2014 12:23:44 PM PDT by
dirtymac
(Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
To: ifinnegan
“Communist agitprop has always been to make cops the enemy, so I am skeptical about all these blanket easy condemnations.”
Sow the wind and sometimes you get to reap the whirlwind.
76 posted on
05/15/2014 4:11:34 PM PDT by
RKBA Democrat
(Two parties, one agenda. It's the uniparty.)
To: ifinnegan
I tire of the lies in these reports.
Is a man dead? Witnesses report a restrained man being clubbed to death with fists and flashlights.
Cops didnt just decide to beat a guy to death for no reason.
Failure to instantly obey the commands of the State is rarely met with other than instantaneous force. In many aspects this case rather grossly fits the unmistakable trend of modern American law enforcement.
Maybe they were fully over the top and need prison. Maybe the attempt to stop a psychotic lead to his death and the cops acted professionally.
There's a
very simple
recipe to put a stop to it. Decisively, expensively, and messily - but a stop.
But to claim no reason is BS.
I expect the comment was intended to mean, "no reasonable justification" rather than "no reason". There was clearly a "reason" they bludgeoned this man to death. The thrill of subjugation and killing is certainly a reason, if not reasonable.
Communist agitprop has always been to make cops the enemy, so I am skeptical about all these blanket easy condemnations.
I'm skeptical about people being called communists when they oppose gang murder by jackbooted thugs.
Not that cops dont abuse their position and commit police brutality, but the goal of the Communists and left has always been to slander police and any institution of social order as much as possible to cause mistrust and fear among members of society.
Disingenuous and, frankly, somewhat disgusting. It isn't "slander" of police and "institutions of social order" that's causing mistrust and fear among the People.
It's a pregnant women holding a baby being shot through the head by FBI snipers. It's men, women and children being shot, gassed, crushed and burned to death by the BATF. It's homeless men being machine-gunned by local police departments. It's "tight buttocks" being used as grounds for multiple forced colonoscopies. It's teenagers dying after having their throats carved out by "sharp objects" in a hunt for drugs. It's armored cars roaring down Boston streets pointing machine guns at terrified residents. It's dogs being shot in the name of officer safety. (It's parakeets being killed in the name of officer safety too.) It's the lies and abuse of the citizenry that is being captured on video... which then is "somehow" destroyed.
I think there's a
hell of a lot more behind the looming existential upheaval headed this nation's way than the mutterings of communists against social order.
To: ifinnegan
“Cops didnt just decide to beat a guy to death for no reason.”
Sorry, but there is NEVER a reason to beat someone to death. NEVER. Cops do not hand out punishment.
This was murder in the first degree!
110 posted on
05/17/2014 5:58:00 AM PDT by
CodeToad
(Arm Up! They Are!)
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