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House Republicans find 10% of tea party donors audited by IRS
Washington Times ^ | 5-7-2014 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 05/07/2014 8:16:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing

House Republicans find 10% of tea party donors audited by IRS

Tells commissioner to come clean

By Stephen Dinan-The Washington Times - Updated: 10:10 p.m. on Wednesday, May 7, 2014

Despite assurances to the contrary, the IRS didn’t destroy all of the donor lists scooped up in its tea party targeting — and a check of those lists reveals that the tax agency audited 10 percent of those donors, much higher than the audit rate for average Americans, House Republicans revealed Wednesday.

Republicans argue that the Internal Revenue Service still hasn’t come clean about the full extent of its targeting, which swept up dozens of conservative groups.

“The committee uncovered new information indicating that after groups provided the information to the IRS, nearly one in 10 donors were subject to audit,” Rep. Charles W. Boustany Jr., Louisiana Republican and chairman of the Ways and Means Committee’s oversight panel, told IRS Commissioner John Koskinen at a hearing Wednesday.

“The abuse of discretion and audit selection must be identified and stopped,” he said.

Mr. Koskinen didn’t specifically address the accusations during the hearing, and the IRS didn’t respond to a request for comment late Wednesday evening.

The revelation was made on the same day that the House voted on a nonbinding resolution asking the Justice Department to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the IRS targeting...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: audit; impeachnow; irs; irsaudits; irsoutofcontrol; irsteapartyscandal; loislerner; statistics; teaparty
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1 posted on 05/07/2014 8:16:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

“the House voted on a nonbinding resolution “

Anyone wanna explain WHY it isn’t binding? Anyone? Why they did not vote to MAKE it binding?


2 posted on 05/07/2014 8:24:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: smoothsailing

The US needs a simple flat tax with very limited deductions. The IRS needs to be abolished and every last one of its employees sent into the unemployment line. Let them live off their retirement contributions which can be refunded to them.


3 posted on 05/07/2014 8:26:53 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Bump


4 posted on 05/07/2014 8:27:19 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: House Atreides

Works for me.


5 posted on 05/07/2014 8:28:42 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; Norm Lenhart; GeronL; RitaOK; Jane Long; All

If Obama would just stop waiting for his behind to lead, and move forward with Nationalizing all of the US Oil and Gas pipelines, then Nationalized Oil and Gas pipelines revenues would buy:
* a lot of Cattle Rustlers for Feudal Lord Reid’s BLM Raiders;
* pay liberal shakedown fines to Algore for the EPA illegal CO2 footprint of Obama’s Corporate Jet, Air Force One;
* and fully fund all annual performance bonuses for those public servants who daily break Federal Laws at the IRS.


6 posted on 05/07/2014 8:31:49 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: smoothsailing

Odds of an individual return being audited by the IRS is 1/150. Wonder if odds of 1/10 for a certain group is statistically significant?

CC


7 posted on 05/07/2014 8:34:15 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: smoothsailing

It would be nice to look into the details of these audits, when compared to detailed averages over the entire population of taxpayers audited.

What was the average amount of underpaid taxes recovered from the TEA Party targets, compared to the average amount of underpaid taxes recovered for all taxpayers audited in a single year?

What was the average amount of all penalties assessed against the TEA Party targets, compared to the average of penalties assessed for all taxpayers audited in a single year?

What was the average income level of the TEA Party targets, compared to the average income level of all taxpayers who are audited in a single year?

What percentage of the TEA Party targets were claiming EITC money, compared to the percentage of EITC recipients audited in a single year?


8 posted on 05/07/2014 8:34:21 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: smoothsailing
OK now, THIS IS A BIG EFFIN' DEAL.

They went from targeting conservative organization in their application for tax exempt status...to targeting INDIVIDUALS FOR AUDIT.

In any sane world this would cause an armed revolution, but even the GOP in Congress cannot avoid the implications of this.

Impeachment now.

9 posted on 05/07/2014 8:35:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: smoothsailing
This is tyranny

IRS audit rate is 10 times the normal rate for tea party donors. that's barack Obama ordering the IRS to eliminate his political enemies, an impeachable offense. the buck Stops with Obama . Barack Obama is the head of the IRS

if a Republican president had done this it would be on 24/7 on the network TV instead of “the racist comment some baskteball guy said” , or the luge at the winter olympics, or the missing plane, or trayvon martin,

in the 1970’s the watergate hearings were on all 3 networks 24/7 .and Nixon's IRS never did oppress anyone. but the media insinuated that he might have wanted to

10 posted on 05/07/2014 8:37:26 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Graewoulf

Bump


11 posted on 05/07/2014 8:37:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Captain Compassion; All
"Wonder if odds of 1/10 for a certain group is statistically significant?"

ABSOLUTELY!

Especially when the only connection they have between them is the fact they contributed to a conservative organization that the IRS has already admitted they illegally targeted.

We're talking about individual targeting, on a mass scale, with a political motive.

Crime of the Century.

12 posted on 05/07/2014 8:38:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Impeachment now.

Nope -- it's beyond that. It's time for torches and pitchforks.

13 posted on 05/07/2014 8:39:10 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Mariner

“OK now, THIS IS A BIG EFFIN’ DEAL....

...Impeachment now.”
**********************************************************************

And searching out and FIRING of the “civil servants” who are guiding and/or doing these targeted selections and preying upon the Obama regime’s enemies. And I do mean IMMEDIATE FIRING and not placing the perps on these ridiculous paid vacations (known as administrative leave to the bureaucrats).


14 posted on 05/07/2014 8:41:30 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Sooth2222

Exactly. This is Revolution material if there EVER WAS.


15 posted on 05/07/2014 8:42:11 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: smoothsailing

If this is true then the Republicans better grow some balls because now I am afraid to even donate to the RNC.


16 posted on 05/07/2014 8:42:40 PM PDT by willk (everyone)
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To: House Atreides
democrat President Woodrow wilson destroyed this country with the income tax in 1913. Wilson enabled the 16th amendment(income tax), the 17th (which destroyed the free republic) , federal reserve etc.

Byron King explains how the world we’re all living in today was essentially created by President Woodrow Wilson during his Presidency.
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-wilson-presidency-woodrow-wilsons-world/

an income tax is unconstitutional . they had to ratify the 16th amendment to get the income tax but many say it was never even ratified (does anyone here know?)

17 posted on 05/07/2014 8:43:40 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Mariner
He'll never be impeached. It's an unfortunate fact: a result of the evil of his party, and the evil of the MSM spin machine along the naivete of much of the current American electorate.

I'm saying this as one of the ten per cent who were harassed. Trust me, it wasn't fun, although being picked out had its special qualities as a badge of honor.

18 posted on 05/07/2014 8:45:05 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: House Atreides
"And I do mean IMMEDIATE FIRING"

To hell with that!

They need to be charged, tried, convicted and imprisoned for their crimes.

Those in charge should be tried and hung on the Capitol Steps.

19 posted on 05/07/2014 8:46:42 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Lakeshark
"He'll never be impeached."

The House must bring charges without consideration of what they think the Senate may do.

20 posted on 05/07/2014 8:48:11 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: smoothsailing; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Admin Moderator

Would you please put this in Breaking News? This is a big one.

21 posted on 05/07/2014 8:50:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Barack Obama ordered the IRS to audit conservatives . the buck stops with Obama . it is the head of the IRS . Impeach and imprison Obama for these crimes and tyranny

Nixon was hounded out of office for less by the news media. Nixon’s IRS never oppressed anyone but the media said Nixon wanted to


22 posted on 05/07/2014 8:50:29 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Mariner
It's a fools errand, the MSM and the dems would all love it, and thrive from it.
23 posted on 05/07/2014 8:51:07 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: smoothsailing

GOPe leaders probably asked for them to be audited. I wouldn’t put it past them.


24 posted on 05/07/2014 8:52:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Mariner
Crime of the Century.

I agree. Sadly, the left is willing to accept this sort of thing... and they have all the power. It'll only get worse from here on out.

25 posted on 05/07/2014 8:53:36 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: GeronL

Ok so you’re blaming the Republicans for this when Obama is the head of the IRS . ridiculous.

Barack Obama ordered the IRS to audit conservatives . the buck stops with Obama . it is the head of the IRS . Impeach and imprison Obama for these crimes and tyranny.Only Obama is responsible. it is the president


26 posted on 05/07/2014 8:57:56 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Democrat_media

I am blaming the GOPe leaders for allowing it for too long, people like McConnell no doubt cheer on the IRS


27 posted on 05/07/2014 8:58:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Captain Compassion

Wonder if odds of 1/10 for a certain group is statistically significant?
++++++++++
Imagine we are playing a game where you flip a quarter 3 times and I give you a dollar if you get 3 heads. That should happen about one time in 8 tries.

After you flip the quarter 3 times it’s my turn. For me to win a dollar from you I have to flip that same quarter 7 times and get all heads. Normally that would happen about one time in 128 tries.

When we play this game over and over you find yourself, like the Tea Party donars, slowly losing your money to me.

Do you think that maybe this game might just be rigged in my favor?


28 posted on 05/07/2014 8:59:38 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: GeronL

ridiculous .Barack Obama ordered the IRS to audit conservatives and Republicans

Obama is the President. Obama is the boss of the IRS .it is his IRS. the buck stops with barack Obama

what evidence do you have that Republicans forced Obama to audit conservatives. ridiculous


29 posted on 05/07/2014 9:01:30 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Lakeshark
It's a fools errand, the MSM and the dems would all love it, and thrive from it.

"Oh nooess, they might say mean things about us!"

So what do you suggest happens in response?

30 posted on 05/07/2014 9:02:18 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: smoothsailing

I continue to say this (the IRS scandal) is a much bigger deal than Benghazi. Very crassly: This affects half of all Americans, on American soil, was deliberate, arguably affected an election, and was by its nature a conspiracy, a racket, a complex violation of IRS regs. Benghazi, no doubt, might have affected the election; Benghazi affected four people, and those four could have been killed just out of massive incompetence from a security lapse. I *do* understand the coverup of Benghazi is the big issue, but from the argumentative standpoint, that attack could happened to “anyone” and the coverup didn’t kill anyone, it was just a massive lie, like so many others.

I’m not trying to sugarcoat anything. They are both egregious, but the IRS thing is an internal hijacking of the gov’t and stands as bigger deal, as least to me it does.


31 posted on 05/07/2014 9:02:50 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Democrat_media

I never said the GOPe forced Obama to audit conservatives.

I said they did not care and people like McConnell probably cheered it on.


32 posted on 05/07/2014 9:03:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Barack Obama ordered the IRS to audit conservatives and Republicans

Obama is the President. Obama is the boss of the IRS .it is his IRS. the buck stops with barack Obama and with no one else .


33 posted on 05/07/2014 9:05:48 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Democrat_media

and the idiot GOP did not care for the longest time did they?

Like an Issa hearing it’s all talk and blather.


34 posted on 05/07/2014 9:08:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


35 posted on 05/07/2014 9:09:11 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

It is INSANE! The same agency which was used to thuggish effect to suppress the freedoms of voters is now to be used to control your healthcare destiny. INSANE! Is Boehner unable to see the potentials the democrips will use at every chance they get? INSANE!


36 posted on 05/07/2014 9:12:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: willk
If this is true then the Republicans better grow some balls because now I am afraid to even donate to the RNC.

and that is exactly what they want.
37 posted on 05/07/2014 9:13:01 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: GeronL
This thread is about a serious tyranny against American citizens by a President Obama and his IRS.it's about government oppression against citizens
38 posted on 05/07/2014 9:13:46 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Without a doubt vastly more Americans will have a personal reaction to the IRS scandal so I agree with you. The blowback to the Obama administration is potentially far more devastating.


39 posted on 05/07/2014 9:16:17 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Dogbert41; All

40 posted on 05/07/2014 9:21:55 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: smoothsailing

Keep in mind the Republican Establishment only exists to manipulate the tax code for the favor of their masters in the corporate world.

Nothing is going to change in the IRS, it is in the optimal interest of all parties EXCEPT the American wage earning taxpayers, to make sure that any and every expression of displeasure with the IRS be summarily crushed through lawfare and bureaucratic tsunamis.


41 posted on 05/07/2014 9:25:17 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: House Atreides

The “flat tax” still lets Washington too much into the mix (THEY get to decide what our “flat tax” is, after all). A national sales tax on the other hand, where a couple of pennies for the Feds is added to the state sales tax you already pay, has a few major advantages: It’s COMPLETELY “fair” first of all, because it’s based on your personal buying power. Buy a new Mercedes, you’re paying more tax than the guy who buys a beater to get around town. It’s easy, because you just need to do a little finagling with your cash register software to get it done, and — maybe most of all — it provides an incentive for the federal government to actually WORK. When economic times are awesome, big bucks flow into the federal coffers; when times are rough, the feds just have to learn how to get by, or pass legislation that promotes job growth and business strength. The national sales tax is truly “free-market-based”


42 posted on 05/07/2014 9:32:45 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: House Atreides

The “flat tax” still lets Washington too much into the mix (THEY get to decide what our “flat tax” is, after all). A national sales tax on the other hand, where a couple of pennies for the Feds is added to the state sales tax you already pay, has a few major advantages: It’s COMPLETELY “fair” first of all, because it’s based on your personal buying power. Buy a new Mercedes, you’re paying more tax than the guy who buys a beater to get around town. It’s easy, because you just need to do a little finagling with your cash register software to get it done, and — maybe most of all — it provides an incentive for the federal government to actually WORK. When economic times are awesome, big bucks flow into the federal coffers; when times are rough, the feds just have to learn how to get by, or pass legislation that promotes job growth and business strength. The national sales tax is truly “free-market-based”


43 posted on 05/07/2014 9:34:21 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

Sorry for the lengthy double-post!


44 posted on 05/07/2014 9:34:57 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: smoothsailing

Bump


45 posted on 05/07/2014 9:35:52 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Sooth2222

It’s time for an American spring tied to traditional Constitutional concepts. We’ve moved pretty far away from then already. I’m willing to go to DC this summer.


46 posted on 05/07/2014 9:59:14 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: smoothsailing
DOES THIS SURPRISE ANYONE? HONESTLY?

THE CHICAGO MOB HAS HIJACKED OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEY DON'T PLAN ON GIVING IT UP ANYTIME SOON.
47 posted on 05/07/2014 10:30:56 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: JimSEA

Count me in on a march to the corruption capitol.


48 posted on 05/07/2014 10:31:41 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Democrat_media
Obama is the President. Obama is the boss of the IRS .it is his IRS. the buck stops with barack Obama and with no one else .

You think Obama is the only problem? How naive.

Boehner and McConnell are equally to blame because they will NOT lift a D*mn finger to investigate this.

I am very angry at the left, but I am more angry and livid at the evil GOPe letting all this slide.

Do you not understand that Boehner and McConnell are probably glad the Tea Party donors are being audited?

Albert Jay Nock was correct, Our Enemey, the State

The consolidation by both parties of State Power accumulating since Wilson and FDR is nearly complete.

49 posted on 05/07/2014 10:37:41 PM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: sand88
IRS also audited big donors to Romney:

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/jul/26/idaho-ceo-big-gop-donor-subject-of-irs-labor/

so you are saying gop is coercing Obama to use the IRS to audit Republican and tea party donors. ridiculous. where is the evidence for that. Obama is the boss of the IRS .Obama is responsible for what the IRS does.

democrat President Woodrow wilson destroyed this country with the income tax in 1913. Wilson enabled the 16th amendment(income tax), the 17th (which destroyed the free republic) , federal reserve etc.

Byron King explains how the world we’re all living in today was essentially created by President Woodrow Wilson during his Presidency.
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-wilson-presidency-woodrow-wilsons-world/

I guess you'll say the Republicans used a time machine and made Wilson and his democrat congress pass the 17th and 16th amendments too right.

50 posted on 05/07/2014 10:56:36 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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