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VA Health Scandals Foreshadow Life Under ObamaCare
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 05/06/2014 | IBD Staff

Posted on 05/07/2014 6:50:11 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer

Rationing: Government-run VA health clinics have been caught falsifying records to hide obscenely long and sometimes deadly delays in treating veterans. Welcome to the future of health care under ObamaCare.

The VA recently decided to investigate one of its Colorado outpatient clinics to see how it handled patient delays. What it found was shocking, but not surprising.

While delays for many of the 6,300 veterans treated at the clinic stretched out for months, clerks there were told to falsify dates so it appeared that everyone was being seen in a timely fashion. Those who didn't play along ended up on a "bad boy list," according to USA Today, which obtained a copy of the report.

This follows a report that 23 veterans relying on the VA died due to delayed cancer screenings.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; obamacarefuture; socializedmedicine; va; vahospital; vahospitals

1 posted on 05/07/2014 6:50:11 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer
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To: IBD editorial writer

So true and so very sad.


2 posted on 05/07/2014 6:52:00 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: IBD editorial writer

All except the LIV knew this.


3 posted on 05/07/2014 6:55:31 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Get rid of the VA hospitals…there are no waiting list a regular hospitals YET…there will be unless the Tea Party takes over..


4 posted on 05/07/2014 6:56:37 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: IBD editorial writer

The headline says it all!


5 posted on 05/07/2014 7:01:18 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: IBD editorial writer

I get my care form Ft Collins VA Clinic, the one in the investigation. I haven’t had much problem. I got an appointment with 4 hours of when I asked. Getting referrals to Cheyenne hospital was not a problem.


6 posted on 05/07/2014 7:02:30 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

VA care = ObamaCare; same crap care


7 posted on 05/07/2014 7:15:36 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: IBD editorial writer
I was forced to switch to the VA after reaching my life time cap under private insurance. I find the VA system excellent, much better than the private insurance I had.

Most people, luckily for them, have never experienced the BS dished out by private insurance companies if you actually need care and faced premiums going up 500% in a ten year period.

The VA provides excellent care for most of Veterans that can qualify (folks who private insurance doesn't want for the most part) and the those attacking it are ... either misinformed or well ...just dumb

8 posted on 05/07/2014 7:33:55 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: IBD editorial writer

Obamacare will delay, deny and make excessively expensive treatments for any chronic illness or age related illness. Instead there is the con of wellness treatments benefiting government and government related employment levels and doing little else.

You could almost put on your tinfoil hat and assert that the perceived need for population reduction under the climate change polemics is related to healthcare denials.


9 posted on 05/07/2014 7:39:32 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: IBD editorial writer

I get seen at the Reno VA, despite it being about 75 miles away (the closest one), and pretty much all of the workers there seem to care greatly for the veterans they take care of, and for the most part I am very happy with them.


10 posted on 05/07/2014 8:15:00 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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"The VA recently decided to investigate one of its Colorado outpatient clinics"

How the hell is this supposed to be a warning of what is coming with obama-care?!? An organization admitting there may be a problem and tries to fix it. This is equal to Obama-care how???

11 posted on 05/07/2014 8:26:04 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: montanajoe
" I find the VA system excellent, much better than the private insurance I had."

As I do too. The quality of care is simply amazing.

It's actually a bit of a problem when trying to come to terms with government run health care. If the VA model was employed to the public, well….you see what I mean.

12 posted on 05/07/2014 8:29:42 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: IBD editorial writer

I am VA rated 100% P&T, and if you do not know what P&T is, you have no business bad mouthing the VA. My base care unit is Wade Park in Cleveland. Is it perfect? Hell no, but neither am I. Any appointment I need is scheduled usually within 2-3 weeks. These are just general appointments, nothing for serious/life threatening situations. Very, very, seldom, do I have to wait over 20 minutes to see the health care person. I must make the same comments about the out patient clinic I go to in New Philadelphia. No slackards, grouchy faces, non caring people there either. All in all I am very pleased with the VA. I wouldn’t be alive without them.


13 posted on 05/07/2014 8:42:12 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Don Corleone
All except the LIV knew this.

How about, they knew and they flat-ass didn't care?

To them, "elderly veteran" (World Wars, Korea) = "old white guy". There is, for the LIV, no downside to denying them care and letting them "drop off".

This is a new morality at work.

14 posted on 05/07/2014 4:50:34 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Rannug
The report detailed objective conditions at another location.

Are you telling these guys they're wrong, and that there were no unconscionable delays? That they're mistaken somehow?

One of my aunts died in England while the UK's National Health played games deep-listing her for hip replacements. They were waiting for her to die so they wouldn't have to do the op. They won. People in bureaucratic environments do play games, and my aunt got the shirt that proves it.

15 posted on 05/07/2014 4:54:13 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Utilizer
Most VA employees do care about their work, and their patients. As with any federal employment pool you get some losers, crooks and sour apples. But in the main, VA employees are happy and stay at their jobs for a long time.

The federal benefits can't be beat, the pay is better than the private sector for almost every position, and the job security is golden. Plus they get to provide services to some of the greatest Americans we have. Who wouldn't be happy working there and want to do a good job?

16 posted on 05/07/2014 5:06:17 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: lentulusgracchus

I am sorry for the loss of your aunt. Tragic deaths are always bad. I hope her family is doing well.

No sir, I am not saying they are wrong. I have no doubt but that they are being truthful. None whatsoever. The VA is oft maligned. I am simply emphasizing that the VA is not all wrong. I wish all regional hospitals are as efficient as I perceive Wade Park to be.


17 posted on 05/08/2014 2:55:38 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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That old passing of my elderly aunt was 20 years ago ..... what was ironic was, she was a retired RN, and that was how they repaid her faithful service.

Bureaucrats. Bring donuts every day, or they'll forget you exist.

As for regional VA hospitals, I've no opinion on them; my dad died in a VA hospital 44 years ago, but it wasn't for want of effort on their part. It was because Staphylococcus aureus has a way of disguising blood poisoning as the flu.

18 posted on 05/08/2014 2:35:40 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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