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The headline is significant for what it implies not what it says. Russia has got Ukraine in a death grip. Ethnic Russian rent a mobs led by Russian special forces took over a bunch of government buildings in East Ukraine and are barricaded there with weapons and hostages. Any attempt to dislodge the terrorists will result in a Russian invasion to "protect innocent Russian civilians". With a Russian army massed at its borders Ukraine is trying to master some defenses, this is now being used as yet another excuse by Russia to escalate situation.
1 posted on 04/26/2014 7:58:44 PM PDT by BurningOak
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To: BurningOak

Blockade would be the best thing at this point. No supplies for pro Russia Guerrillas.


2 posted on 04/26/2014 8:02:21 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: BurningOak

Russia is like an abuser that beats you more when you resist, and blames your resistance for the beating.


3 posted on 04/26/2014 8:03:12 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: BurningOak

Maybe Putin should order Obama to stop sending Socks and MRE’s to Ukraine they’re getting bold


4 posted on 04/26/2014 8:03:25 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: BurningOak

Don’t kid yourself, Slavyansk is basically Russian in culture and sympathy. Debate the reasons why, point out when they became “Russian”, etc. Argue whether Russia has a right to intervene no matter what the sympathies of Slavyansk, etc.

But stay in reality. Western Ukraine is solidly in favor of the Kiev coup. They support it happily.
And conversely, remember that Slavyansk’ oblast went about 96% for Yanukovych in that election.


8 posted on 04/26/2014 8:18:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: BurningOak

It is obvious what Putin is/has been doing. Are Russians so gullible that they believe Putin is there to “protect/rescue” Russians in Ukraine?


10 posted on 04/26/2014 8:22:52 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: BurningOak

This may be the contrived impetus to enter Ukraine, clearly before the election is a necessity for the Russian thinking. If thats the final objective, they will do it and not much resistance may occur, if they stay east of the Dniper river. Really for Russia, Ukraine can be rolled up, “Like Grant took Richmond”. To use the slightly inaccurate term. They more than likely will. The west will piss and moan, more sanctions levied, but the sanctions may hurt the west in the long run more than Russia. Obama may be at this moment, after leaving the mosque he is visiting built over a former church, in Malaysia today, order more MRE’s sent in a massive airlift. (The Chili MRE is a personal favorite) perhaps the M&M’s and other treats inside can be handed out to the Russian troops on the March.


13 posted on 04/26/2014 8:28:45 PM PDT by Trapper6012
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To: BurningOak

But the overlooked bottom line is that this is all window dressing for both sides. Neither side gives a tinkers damn about ANY stripe of Ukrainian.

NATO and the EU wants to finally complete their expansion directly up to the actual Russian border.
And Russia insists on a buffer because of all the European invasions they have endured. They view this the way we would view Russian tanks and bases right up on out Mexican border, IF we had been catastrophically invaded by Mexico several times. (back in the days when we had one that is)

Russia intends to do anything it takes not to let Ukraine become a NATO staging ground. Making it more emotional is the Nazi element in the Kiev interim government. (Russians really really hate Nazis)
And the fact that Kiev is the epicenter of Russian history and culture.
They’ll fight for it. And Obama is just fun enough that he’ll start a war on a whim in Ukraine if the Russians roll in. He’s actually that deranged.

Its very insane.


15 posted on 04/26/2014 8:29:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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No one here would find it acceptable if the Russia put missiles in Tijuana and stationed troops there.

Russia does have nuclear weapons and the US/EU is backing them into a corner. It looks like some people in the deep state for whatever reason want a world war. It won’t stop with Russia, it will engulf China and Iran.

And the era of US dominance will be over.


54 posted on 04/26/2014 10:52:31 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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Ukraine, as former KGB Colonel, gangster statesman, President for Life, and world’s richest man, has no right to self-defense. And, he, Putin can send his army to attack a peaceful nation just because it’s weaker and there are Russian speakers there doing the Geo-political strategic proxies victim dance that the Nazis did in the Sudetenland.


56 posted on 04/27/2014 12:07:10 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: BurningOak

How dare those Ukrainians defend their country, the nerve!


59 posted on 04/27/2014 3:47:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Russians “complaining”???

Say it isn’t so Pooty-Poot!!!

I thought you said you were going to smoke these Ukranians??? Like a pack of Cools???

Did you run out of cigarettes???


62 posted on 04/27/2014 5:46:25 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: BurningOak

What were the State Dept. and CIA thinking when they decided to push for a coup against a democratically elected leader that was friendly with Russia? Did they think Russia would accept that?

The Federal Government’s actions in Ukraine are outrageous. America has no interests in Ukraine and no reason to interfere in their political process.

All over the EU.


63 posted on 04/27/2014 10:11:16 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: BurningOak

“The Defense Ministry source said the number of Ukraine troops put the pro-Russian militants at a disadvantage because the latter are “armed only with small amount of pistols and shotguns.” Many eastern Ukraine residents have Russian roots and sympathize with Moscow.”

You got to be kidding me. And how much forces did Russian bring against Ukraine?


66 posted on 04/27/2014 1:53:54 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: BurningOak

How DARE the Ukrainian Army move forces around inside Ukraine without permission from Moscow! These upstarts must think they’re an independent country!


74 posted on 04/28/2014 11:28:44 AM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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This is Russian psyops. They are putting the blame on Ukraine for their (Russia's) need to save Russian speaking Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine (ergo blaming Ukraine for what they are about to do).
84 posted on 04/28/2014 3:54:10 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Putin doesn't really want Ukraine. He wanted Crimea because of the Russian naval base there, but he doesn't want Ukraine.

What is going on in Eastern Ukraine is like Putin riding a horse without a shirt...it's all about his image.

He is pushing because Obama and the West is/are weak. He is flexing his political muscle.

In the end, Putin knows that when he smiles and shakes hands with the West...all will be well.

The mom jeans and sissy boys (like Obama/Kerry) will proclaim victory and the West will return to complaining about the use of language like "Man Up" and "Pussy" and "Bitch" and "Bossy."

Putin will have taken all he can take (and that might include Eastern Ukraine) and he will be admired by Russians for being a man...a Russian Man.

86 posted on 04/28/2014 4:07:54 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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