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To: BurningOak

Don’t kid yourself, Slavyansk is basically Russian in culture and sympathy. Debate the reasons why, point out when they became “Russian”, etc. Argue whether Russia has a right to intervene no matter what the sympathies of Slavyansk, etc.

But stay in reality. Western Ukraine is solidly in favor of the Kiev coup. They support it happily.
And conversely, remember that Slavyansk’ oblast went about 96% for Yanukovych in that election.


8 posted on 04/26/2014 8:18:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino; BurningOak
Don’t kid yourself, Slavyansk is basically Russian in culture and sympathy.

The polling data shows that the majority of people in the East and South do not support annexation or federalization. You have no evidence for your claims that the Russian-led separatists enjoy any popular support.

But stay in reality. Western Ukraine is solidly in favor of the Kiev coup.

You repeat this in every thread but you always run away like a little girl when I challenge you on it. There was no coup. The Interim government in Ukraine is, in fact, the Ukrainian Rada that was democratically elected in October of 2012. Yanukovych fled the country to a foreign enemy after the entire Rada condemned him, including his own party, for his constitutional abuses, abuses on the Ukrainian people, and his looting.

Every time you describe what happened as a "coup," you are spreading Kremlin lies.

18 posted on 04/26/2014 8:37:47 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DesertRhino
Don’t kid yourself, Slavyansk is basically Russian in culture and sympathy


60 posted on 04/27/2014 3:53:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DesertRhino
But stay in reality. Western Ukraine is solidly in favor of the Kiev coup

Depends on what you mean.

Lemberg was never, and will never, be Russian. Galicia and Lodomeria are where Europe ends - they should be in the Fourth Reich E.U.

Kiev? I'm not so sure. If I had to bet (which I don't), I would bet the Russian tanks will be greeted with flowers.

If Putin is smart, he will give Lemberg (Lwow) back to Poland and Koenigsberg back to Germany at the same time.

119 posted on 05/01/2014 12:19:42 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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