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Paul: Still hope for immigration reform this year
The Hill ^ | April 25, 2014, 05:53 pm | Alexandra Jaffe

Posted on 04/26/2014 9:34:47 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) thinks there’s still hope for immigration reform this year, but only if Democrats are willing to negotiate.

“People have to acknowledge that the Democrats, if they want it passed, have to make more of a compromise,” he said in a talk to students at Harvard's Institute of Politics on Friday.

Paul envisions that compromise as some sort of legal status — “status and a place for people here so that they can come out of the shadows, let them begin paying taxes, let them not be locked up and having them run from the authorities,” he said. But he said that status would not include the voting rights “that everybody wants.”

He said voting rights could come “someday,” but at this point in the debate the only reform he thinks could pass is a more stripped-down bill.

The Senate did pass a comprehensive reform bill last June with strong bipartisan support, but Paul voted against that bill — because, he said on Friday, it “doesn’t do enough.” He said the caps on different kinds of workers were too low to effectively deal with the problem.

“We can’t have a limit so small that it doesn’t encompass what the demand is,” Paul said.

Hopes for final passage of a reform package this year have faltered in the House, where Republican leaders have said they have no plans to bring up the Senate bill for a vote, and no alternative comprehensive reform package has emerged. Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) seemed to confirm the slim chance for reform this year during a speech Thursday in his home district where he mocked fellow Republicans for refusing to tackle the issue.

"Here's the attitude: 'Ohhhh. Don't make me do this. Ohhhh. This is too hard,' " he told a meeting of the Middletown Rotary Club.

But Paul charged that the failure to move forward with reform lies partly with Democrats, some of whom he said are content to “keep beating up the Republicans on this” because it’s helping the party win the Hispanic vote.

“And then there are some responsible people on both sides who want to pass something,” he added.

The Kentucky senator concluded: “I still think something could pass this year. Some of it more than anything is attitude, that we treat people with dignity and respect and that we acknowledge that we were all immigrants at one point in time, that immigrants are an asset.” 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: amnesty; ericcantor; johnboehner; kentucky; libertarian; mattbevin; mitchmcconnell; ohio; openborders; outoflove; rand; randnesty; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; randsconcerntrolls; shadows; undocumented
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To: Bratch

12 million more arrive.

Id rather have 300,000 illegals cross the border per year than 1 million.

The illegals are chasing jobs and welfare not citizenship. That is the magnet. JD Hayworth and Rush Limbaugh were explaining this to Bush as far back as 2006.


41 posted on 04/26/2014 4:07:38 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: SoConPubbie

“Something-—? “ The fella is having trouble making his lips work. As with anyone else who can’t plainly spit out what the bleep it is they actually want to do——I can’t use him.


42 posted on 04/26/2014 4:20:16 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

I’m totally against amnesty.

That said, any legislation that attempts to tax individuals without giving said individuals the right-to-vote goes against everything upon which this country was founded.

I’m dumbfounded any politician could even consider this concept, much less attempt to enact it.

It’s just another example of how far we’ve strayed for our origins.


43 posted on 04/26/2014 4:52:05 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: SoConPubbie

As if Dems would ever negotiate. Negotiating with them means they want 1000% evil and Rs say “how about only 500% evil?” and the Dems say , “No, 750% evil”, and Rs say “okay”. Then the Dems add the other 250% in the “detials”.

Rand Paul is actually even worse than his father. More duplicitous. At least with Ron Paul you know where he stood.


44 posted on 04/26/2014 4:55:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: entropy12

Singapore and America a have nothing in common, even chewing gum is illegal there.

Singapore has twice the population of Brooklyn, and from 1994 through 1999 executed by hanging, 14 per 100,000 of it’s population, for breaking the law.

Among the death penalty crimes: “Unlawful discharge of firearms, even if no one is injured”


45 posted on 04/26/2014 5:12:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: xzins

This *is* the old Rand Paul - not the one who reinvented himself as a conservative during 2010 Senate primary.


46 posted on 04/26/2014 5:28:21 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ansel12

If you have brains, you learn from the successful.
Stupid people ignore how others became successful.
If you want to live with 93 million unemployed,
12 to 30 million illegals, 50 million on food stamps,
spending a fortune on prisons, judges, cops, lawyers,
bailiffs, court houses...to deal with drug offenders,
crumbling infrastructure & bridges, then ignore Singapore.


47 posted on 04/26/2014 5:40:55 PM PDT by entropy12 (Democrats win WH for one reason...welfare checks, food stamps and 143 more giveaways)
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To: entropy12

LOL, read post 45.

The United States is not going to become a nightmare of oppression and lack of freedom, to emulate the tiny city/state of Singapore.

Besides, the United States has nothing in common with that little 5 million peopled, Asian city/state.


48 posted on 04/26/2014 5:46:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul Backs Work Visas for Illegal Immigrants
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3147968/posts

Rand Paul seeks new allies among Romney 2012 team
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3148697/posts


49 posted on 04/26/2014 5:56:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: SoConPubbie

Paul and McC ought to hold a primary between them for most useless Republican senator. I would be “undecided”.


50 posted on 04/26/2014 5:59:58 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: ansel12

Singapore has the most concentration of rich people on earth. 1 our of every 6 people is worth over a million US $$.
But keep ignoring why why some countries do better. Reminds me of the ostrich syndrome. There is no lack of freedom there except for criminals and vandals. Nobody ever stopped me while I was on vacation. Some of the tastiest and best food I have ever eaten. Public transportation makes ours look like 3rd world.


51 posted on 04/26/2014 7:54:35 PM PDT by entropy12 (Democrats win WH for one reason...welfare checks, food stamps and 143 more giveaways)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why has no one knocked the shit out of Boner? He’s just a smart ass.

I would bet that the senate bill will be brought up for a vote in the house and pass right after the elections in November.


52 posted on 04/26/2014 8:04:05 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Norm Lenhart

Rand Paul if just one example of why we should be very leery of jumping on anyone’s bandwagon.


53 posted on 04/26/2014 8:07:23 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: entropy12

Are you insane? You keep ranting about something that makes no sense.

The United States is not Singapore, and never will be, and never was, nor ever could be, we wouldn’t even allow the importation of your evil version of law and lack of freedom.

Do you understand that a tiny oriental country with 5 million people is like a different planet compared to the United States?

Trying to compare United States problems with a tiny oriental city/state, or Vatican city, or Iceland, is silly.

Try to find another way to push your pro-immigration politics.


54 posted on 04/26/2014 8:07:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

You show you lack of world knowledge again. There are 175 or so countries in the United Nations. Most of them are small, under 10 million. And most of them are a basket case economically. Vatican city is dirty, with outdated infrastructure. I seen it with my own eyes. I have probably visited more countries than your age.

Singapore was not rich while the British ruled it as a colony. It had serious drug problems. Then they took a different path. They eliminated government benefits to working age adults! There is no welfare for those, zilch, zero, nada! There is no entitlements! Singapore spends tax collected on infrastructure to promote industrial growth. Corporate taxes are lower than other industrial countries. That is one reason illegal immigrants do not sneak in because there are no freebies unlike Unite States to illegals.

And they control illegal immigration via 2 year work permits. Employers can not hire foreigners without a valid work-permit.

US policies are diametrically opposite. We give free medical benefits, free k-12 education and lunches, food stamps, and other benefits to illegals. It has nothing to do with size of a country. It has everything to do with insane policies. Your English comprehension is very shallow because I am diametrically opposite of promoting unwanted illegal immigration. I have posted as such hundreds of times. I only want over funded and over educated immigrants.

You are back in ignore. I am tired of explaining simple facts to you.


55 posted on 04/26/2014 10:17:32 PM PDT by entropy12 (Democrats win WH for one reason...welfare checks, food stamps and 143 more giveaways)
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To: faucetman

“Just shouting “AMNESTY” is a pathetic and ignorant response to immigration reform.”

New York- yeah, you live right next to the border and really understand what massive illegal immigration does. Idiot.


56 posted on 04/26/2014 10:17:58 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: entropy12

Gee, you went to Singapore and now everything in your life has to be about Singapore.

Including America and Mexican immigration.


57 posted on 04/26/2014 10:31:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: faucetman

Amnesty plus is still amnesty. Paul is a fraud.


58 posted on 04/27/2014 1:00:00 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: xzins

This obviously is the real Rand Paul.


59 posted on 04/27/2014 1:03:04 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yup.


60 posted on 04/27/2014 1:03:39 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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