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Whatever could he mean by that?
1 posted on 04/21/2014 8:34:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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The warden should put them on a hunger strike to go along with their protest strike. They aren’t going to need the energy anyway.


2 posted on 04/21/2014 8:39:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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“They’re incarcerating people for the free labor.”

It's called "Paying your debt to society."

3 posted on 04/21/2014 8:41:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Thug is in for murder. He needs to be treated much worse than anyone would a slave.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 8:41:57 PM PDT by boycott
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He means that many businesses have made partnerships with the prison system to have inmates make goods for almost nothing.

I support inmates having to pay society back for their crimes through acts that work for society’s good, but I don’t think I can support private enterprise taking advantage of those in captivity and require them to make saleable goods for almost no wage.

It creates an incentive for the prison system to be able to get as many people incarcerated as possible and have them work for companies for almost no wages, while the company sells those goods for a good profit.

Just to be clear, for those who think I am saying profit is a bad word. I am not saying that, but I am saying that there is a morality involved when deciding how a profit should be obtained. Creating a system where people are forced to labour for you, without benefitting for themselves, is not a moral way to make money no matter how you cut it.


5 posted on 04/21/2014 8:42:42 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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7 posted on 04/21/2014 8:45:36 PM PDT by bgill
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All I could tell them is that they are damn lucky... lucky I’m not calling the shots. They haven’t SEEN hard labor


8 posted on 04/21/2014 8:45:44 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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Free labor? How much is their stay costing the tax payers of Alabama?


11 posted on 04/21/2014 8:50:04 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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Convict labor and slavery have been recognized as two distinctly different institutions since the dawn of time. The former is punishment for conviction of a crime while the latter is the outright ownership of humans as chattel. This is an attempt to blur the two.


14 posted on 04/21/2014 8:53:55 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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““They’re incarcerating people for the free labor.” “

In Melvin’s case I think they have incarcerated him for being terminally stupid


17 posted on 04/21/2014 8:56:04 PM PDT by Nifster
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Obviously he’s not being beaten enough.


20 posted on 04/21/2014 9:05:04 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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“What we’ve got here is a failure to communicate!”
Said by the “Captain” played by Strother Martin.
Movie Cool Hand Like.


22 posted on 04/21/2014 9:09:48 PM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2014!)
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Exactly what he said.


27 posted on 04/21/2014 9:23:57 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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Are the inmates forced to work, or do they volunteer for jobs?


28 posted on 04/21/2014 9:24:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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it is true that they are kept there for slave labor, but that’s not the reason they are there in the first place.


30 posted on 04/21/2014 9:37:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Imprisoning US Citizens for their choice on what they put in their OWN bodies is the real criminal act.

If the negro wants to consume drugs/poison, let him. Prohibition is just an end run around anti slavery laws.

Would you rather see them growing weed, sitting on their ass giggling, or out in the streets shooting up the town Al Capone style, while the poison junkies rob grannies to get a fix?

Unfortunately we have the latter at present. Face it prohibition does NOT do what you have been told it would do. It never has.

34 posted on 04/21/2014 9:55:07 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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“They’re incarcerating people for the free labor.”

The person making that statement is a lying, murdering sack of ****.

Melvin Ray is serving a term of life without parole, and he is serving that because he is a violent murdering stain on the community. He isn’t incarcerated because he somehow miraculously brings in more money than it costs the state to feed, house, police and corral his sorry murdering a**, he’s in prison for life BECAUSE HE MURDERED SOMEBODY.

Someone needs to smash those smuggled cell-phones to bits, shove them back up the inmate orifices used to smuggle them in, and put this murdering piece of filth in front of an executioner where he belongs.


40 posted on 04/21/2014 10:06:33 PM PDT by jameslalor
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a leader of the effort told Salon in a Thursday phone call from his jail cell.

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Does he have a pay phone in his cell or maybe a guard gave him a cell phone? Didn't realize 'they' were allowed phones in their cells, but if 'they' are getting cable TV and room service in their cells, it makes sense.

Nothing like being in jail, getting a job and forming a Union.

Sure was 'neighborly' of them to give the Facility a week to prepare for the shut down.

Maybe the Facility will bring in 'Scabs' to send a message to the "Union Inmates".

46 posted on 04/21/2014 10:15:18 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".))
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lz-whY0vWo


48 posted on 04/21/2014 10:25:02 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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While I have no problem with convicts being essentially slaves, as that is absolutely constitutional, he does have a point about the incentive to imprison as many people as they can due to the profit motive. It touches on the “school-to-prison pipelines” that get mentioned from time to time, particularly in light of the significant privatization of prisons over the last few decades. It’s a situation that’s ripe for abuse, and apparently some are doing so.


49 posted on 04/21/2014 10:30:53 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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Most Freepers know nothing of prison so who can blame their hang em all bravado

Kinda like when Freepers crow about war too...most Freepers are ignorant of war...we have some real combat vets...God love em

Usually Prison industry is UNICOR....they pay a little...which helps indigent prisoners....a lot in some cases

And in principle its best prisoners work....no question....better for everyone

But in really serious 24 hour fighting and killing prisons its not worth the risk...then work becomes a privilege....no I’m not kidding....beats lockdown

Other pitfalls are corrupt staff selling prison labor to fatten pockets

And UNICOR competing in bids with non prison labor private companies for everything from parachutes to desk to uniforms etc

UNICOR has huge advantage paying 50 cents an hour

Actually I like the old prison farms but again...security issues galore

Its complicated

Bastille days are long....


58 posted on 04/21/2014 11:03:52 PM PDT by wardaddy (america was lost about the time black thugs appropriated cafe bikes as social status)
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