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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He means that many businesses have made partnerships with the prison system to have inmates make goods for almost nothing.

I support inmates having to pay society back for their crimes through acts that work for society’s good, but I don’t think I can support private enterprise taking advantage of those in captivity and require them to make saleable goods for almost no wage.

It creates an incentive for the prison system to be able to get as many people incarcerated as possible and have them work for companies for almost no wages, while the company sells those goods for a good profit.

Just to be clear, for those who think I am saying profit is a bad word. I am not saying that, but I am saying that there is a morality involved when deciding how a profit should be obtained. Creating a system where people are forced to labour for you, without benefitting for themselves, is not a moral way to make money no matter how you cut it.


5 posted on 04/21/2014 8:42:42 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

If they didn’t want to be “slaves”, they should have thought about that before leading a life of crime.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 8:45:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jonty30

Just exactly WHAT jobs are being done for private companies??? Making license plates in all the states I know of is done by the correctional facilities. The rest of the jobs were all pertinent to the running of the prison. Just because there was TALK of using inmates for ag labor did not make it happen.

Frankly if you are in PRISON (not jail for the less than scummy folks of the world) then you are doing well to get three hots and a cot. You apparently think that felons ought to be treated in a way that does not acknowledge the fact that they have violated society’s laws.

While I do know some felons ( long story not interesting) I will tell you straight out that most ordinary citizens know ZERO folks who have ever served time in prison. Obey the law or suffer the consequences. Do not complain to me about it


18 posted on 04/21/2014 9:00:50 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Jonty30
He means that many businesses have made partnerships with the prison system to have inmates make goods for almost nothing.

I don't know about other states, but I am pretty sure that is not true in California. For instance, they make license plates at Old Folsom and furniture at San Quentin, but I think it is only for state agencies.

29 posted on 04/21/2014 9:26:16 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Jonty30

> He means that many businesses have made partnerships with the prison system to have inmates make goods for almost nothing.

Worked on a case several years ago where a guy owned a high end custom auto restoration business for the really high dollar vehicles. He would take them conpletely apart, strip the paint, then rebuild each one from the ground up and paint every single part. It was extremely detailed work. The finished autos were breathtaking. Somehow he made a deal with the warden at a state prison facility and they had inmates assisting him by working on some if the vehicles. If memory serves correct, they were removing the serial numbers on the vehicles. Bottom line, yeah this type of stuff really does happen and the inmates work on the “real cheap” but it would be better than sitting in a jail cell all day if you ask me.


42 posted on 04/21/2014 10:09:37 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Jonty30

They should get standard wages and then get the fifty thousand plus that it costs to keep them deducted.


78 posted on 04/22/2014 4:06:20 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Jonty30

——don’t think I can support private enterprise taking advantage of those in captivity ——

Though I don’t necessarily disagree with the premise of your post, what caught my eye was the work “captivity”....

These imates are not “captives” that implies something entirely different....

Most if not all of these “Inmates” are there because of their criminal activity, they were not captured...


79 posted on 04/22/2014 4:14:57 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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