Posted on 04/18/2014 6:21:02 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy
The agreements reached between Ukraine, Russia, the United States and the European Union in Geneva on the vacation of roads, streets and squares in Ukraine do not concern the protesters on Maidan Nezalezhnosti (Independence Square) in Kyiv, Acting Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andriy Deschytsia has said.
Ukraine "De-escalation" Voided As Pro-Russia Militia Refuse To Vacate Occupied Buildings
and
So Much For The De-escalation? Kiev Says Military Operation In East Ukraine To Continue
So, one wonders if this agreement will last longer than this one.
Please, could you change the date this article was written to the correct one 18th April. Sorry, slip of mind and fingers.
tcrlaf: And Lavrov said pretty much exactly that in his after statement.
But apparently not everyone agrees.
Ukraine breaks the agreement next day it’s been signed?
As a reminder, this won't be the first "crisis settlement" agreement that will be promptly violated.
In the end it will be the actions (from both sides) that will decide what will happen.
The sad part is that the United States government supports this type of nonsense.
[Broadcast in loudspeakers]:
All protesting except the banker-backed protesting will stop now !
If the sheeple, oops, I meant people, choose to remain an independent Ukraine...
then pro-European Union protestors will be called back into the streets and cause mayhem with molotov cocktails and piles of burning tires, clubs, bats and guns...
until the terrible anti-Europeans in government allowing the sh.. people to make that wrong choice are removed from power !
Then, the bankers.. er.. there will be temporary leaders placed in government... temporarily... until a new government... until we can try another set of government officials can be put in office... who will... realize... [Victoria Nuland mutters in the background]... until... yes Vict.. until we meet our E..uro.. pean... ass... expire.. aspir... axepirations.
There ! [big smile]...
Ok, we done it. Dat’s the message.
Everybody get it ?
Ok. We all go home now. Eat food.
Remember... Drink Coca-Cola.. have a smile, dat’s good !
Oh, yes, Russia bad. Dat’s no good.
[question in background].
NO !! NOOO!! Never drink Russian Coca-Cola.
[mumble]
NO ! It not same ting ! It from bad man. Very bad man.
[Men in suits help him offstage].
[talks and walks with Victoria]
So Vicki where we going lunch today, dat new place by JP Morg again ? Dat IMF guy coming again ? He is a funny guy that guy.
One reason Yanokovich was not supported even in the eastern and southern part of Ukraine was the fact that he increased the gas prices by 50%. The new euro-maidan gov't has promised the IMF to increase the gas prices (even before any price hike by Gazprom) by 2 x 40% during the next two years.
They will be sooo popular - and unlike Greece, Spain etc people in Ukraine appears willing to fight.
Ukraine breaks the agreement next day it’s been signed?
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In fairness, *which* Ukrainian? Occupy Kiev is a fractured and mutually contentious mob leavened with puppets. It was and remains a riot in progress. One cannot contract with a mob.
Any time I mention financial/economic reality, all the warmongers go quiet.
This stuff is published, it’s public info. A lot of people follow the links and read.
That’s why the warmongering here is so desperate, it’s not having much effect.
The elites have been pushing too much war too long. The sheeple are starting to catch on, something doesn’t smell right to them.
It’s funny, in a horrific sort of way. What I see is the SAME outside investment community, backed by Western governments - that’s been there since 1991, mind you, influencing legislation and public opinion - is now saying “gee, Ukraine just can’t get this corruption under control”. The IMF, World Bank, EBRD, all these “global” financial organizations “without country” GLADLY lend billions to nations with rampant corruption. Always, constantly. They use their influence to get the globalist agenda going, to take over every aspect of life; commerce, food, medicine, etc. All the while the little people are getting the short end of the stick. And these globalist banksters lend billions to such countries, in the private sector and mostly to their corrupt governments. THIS INDEBTS the taxpayers, the sheeple of those countries. The sheeple don’t even have a say in the matter. The “government leaders” are all people who are have resumes chock full of working for Western international banking. They are stooges for the West.
Right now, the stooges are saying “Gee, looks like we have billions and billions in government debt. Gee, we’re gonna need some bigtime hurt in austerity so we can pay back that debt. It will hurt the sheeple, but it will be worth it”.
It’s a huge scam and lie, financially pillaging a whole nation at once.
The sad part is that the United States government supports this type of nonsense.
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When the truth outs I have little doubt that this US administration will have had a hand in instigating this anarchy, along with some other covetous malefactors.
Any time I mention financial/economic reality, all the warmongers go quiet.
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1) I was/am a super secret operative and know more than you.
2) Putinista.
3) Putinista crotch sniffer.
4) Mongoloid Russkie
5) Communist.
6) Gog.
7) Magog.
In conclusion; I am a powerful agent for Order and you are a commie Mongoloid Russkie Putinista crotch sniffer Gogamagogomite!
I think that is the core of the opposition brief to refute your points.
Neither the Maidan - the base of the regime’s support - nor pro-Russian separatists in the East will disarm. They’ll use the Geneva timeout to prepare themseves for Round 2. The Kiev regime represents no one.
A united Ukraine is a legal fiction. I expect all the pretense of goodwill to dissolve by the summer.
The Václav Klaus Institute's public statement on the situation in the Ukraine
Interestingly enough, this is very close to the analysis of another statesman - whose policies were not always liked by conservatives - but who definitely knows and understands the history of Europe:
Kissinger: How the Ukraine crisis ends
Instead of these statesmen the Ukraine crisis is handled on the side of the West by people like Victoria Nuland, John Kerry, Cathy Ashton, Manuel Barroso. Aren't we lucky?
The US/EU also has “Georgia on their mind”, but it’s the Georgia over there.
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