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Mozilla's top exec defends in-Firefox ads, revenue search
Computer World ^ | February 16, 2014 | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 04/09/2014 10:58:45 PM PDT by ari-freedom

The chairwoman of Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit that funds the development of Firefox, last week defended the decision to pursue in-browser ads, saying that it's important to generate revenue.

"To explicitly address the question of whether we care about generating revenue and sustaining Mozilla's work, the answer is yes," Mitchell Baker, former CEO of Mozilla Corp., the subsidiary responsible for Firefox, and now the chair of the parent foundation, wrote on a blog Thursday. "In fact, many of us feel responsible to do exactly this." Mitchell Baker Mitchell Baker, chairwoman of Mozilla Foundation. (Image: Mozilla.)

Baker was responding to questions and concerns raised earlier in the week after Mozilla announced "Directory Tiles," an under-development Firefox feature that would display sponsored thumbnails -- advertisements -- in the New Tabs page of new users of the browser.

In her post, Baker acknowledged that Firefox users in general, and those more intimately involved with Mozilla -- employees and code contributors -- were by nature suspicious of any connection to commercial or business needs, including producing revenue. Browser wars

"Pretty much anytime we talk about revenue at Mozilla people get suspicious," she said. "Mozillians get suspicious, and our supporters get suspicious. There's some value in that, as it reinforces our commitment to user experience and providing value to our users."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bully; bullying; efemininazi; firefox; gay; gaybrowser; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; mozilla; pinkswastika
I don't want to 'sustain' their work.
1 posted on 04/09/2014 10:58:45 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: ari-freedom

It seems that one of the open source browsers is the best bet at the moment, including Pale Moon.


2 posted on 04/09/2014 11:00:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: ari-freedom

So you ask for a new tab, and it shows ads in there until you select a bookmark or enter a URL?

I’d want a quid pro quo.


3 posted on 04/09/2014 11:01:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ari-freedom

A “non-profit” browser now wanting to generate ads..for profit. Eich karma’s a bitch ain’t it?


4 posted on 04/09/2014 11:07:52 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

An Eich-like move seems to bespeak desperation. The company flew high but now sees signs of sinking all over, and Somebody Has To Get Blamed.

Maybe the gay/liberal stuff helped it sink.


5 posted on 04/09/2014 11:13:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: max americana

All the adblock people will get ticked off. How can you have such a feature if ads will be built into the core?


6 posted on 04/09/2014 11:13:37 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: max americana

Oh and the guy who spearheaded the bumping of Eich — turns out he did some nasties on the “gays” too. Covering up?


7 posted on 04/09/2014 11:15:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ari-freedom

An adblock could still watch the internet connection. Can’t fetch an ad, can’t show it. I doubt adware is compiled in.


8 posted on 04/09/2014 11:16:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ari-freedom

LOL that’s right. I made sure Adblock worked with Opera before uninstalling FF.


9 posted on 04/09/2014 11:17:10 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Are you talking about Chris McAvoy?


10 posted on 04/09/2014 11:21:08 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: ari-freedom
The chairwoman of Mozilla Foundation,... last week defended the decision to pursue in-browser ads...

OK... How about attempting to defend your INTOLERANT decision to bow down to the homosexual gestapo and force your CEO to resign instead?

You know, the topic of which the current firestorm is burning its way throughout the internet so fiercely is about -but you still refuse to acknowledge?

How about defending your position that the intolerant 2% of individuals in this country who make up the gay mafia are somehow more relevant to your organization than the personal opinions of the other 98% of the populace who lead normal lives and do not appreciate or accept being forced out of a job simply because of their personal beliefs?

Or is that too insignificant a point to consider?

11 posted on 04/09/2014 11:21:44 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: All

Revenue for Mozilla today comes largely from the open-source browser vendor’s partnership with Google. Whenever a user does a Google search through the main Firefox home screen, Google pays Mozilla. In 2012, Mozilla reported that it generated $311 million in revenue. - Source: http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/is-mozilla-selling-ads-in-firefox.html#sthash.tWfvpEbR.dpuf


12 posted on 04/09/2014 11:23:21 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: max americana

I don’t have problem with ads per se but I do have a problem with firefox making any money from ads after what they did.

A few months ago I would’ve waited for the opportunity to click on as many firefox ads as I could....


13 posted on 04/09/2014 11:26:29 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: ari-freedom

Well, that’ll be it for me for new versions of firefox, then. Actually, I find version 21 to work better anyway than later versions which keep crashing a few times a day. Not to mention they’ve never fixed the plethora of memory leaks that make the damn thing nearly unusable after opening and closing a few dozen web pages, but instead keep concentrating on adding more and more useless bells and whistles, which I guess are more fun to code than the drudgery of rewriting the whole core of the thing from scratch to fix the crippling memory leaks.


14 posted on 04/09/2014 11:28:01 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ari-freedom
""Pretty much anytime we talk about revenue at Mozilla people get suspicious," she said. "Mozillians get suspicious, and our supporters get suspicious.

Then again, some of us are perfectly happy to see Mozilla become less dependent on Google, but we lack the leftist ideologically purity required to be either Mozillans or supporters.

It's a shame. I liked Mozilla Firefox, but I hate liberal fascism. Thanks to Mitchell Baker and her supporters, Firefox has become the official browser of liberal fascists.

15 posted on 04/09/2014 11:41:13 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: ari-freedom

How many people have dumped Firefox in the last week or two?


16 posted on 04/10/2014 12:31:35 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: ari-freedom

Run all the ads you want, Mr. Mitch. I won’t be seeing them.


17 posted on 04/10/2014 2:31:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: steve86
I switched to Pale Moon yesterday and really like it. However, you must "decontaminate" it, because it, by default, reports to Google that it is Firefox. I'm sure this has been posted elsewhere, but it doesn't hurt to do it again:

YOU MUST DECONTAMINATE PALE MOON. IT REPORTS TO WEBSITES THAT IT IS MOZILLA (Firefox). BUT THE FIX IS SIMPLE:

1. Create a new tab.
2. Type "about:config" into the Address Bar as if it were an internet site (URL).
3. Type "compatMode" into the Search box that will appear right below the Address Bar.
4. On the line general.useragent.compatMode.firefox there are three settings: user set, boolean, true. Click on "true" and it will change to false.
5. Close the tab.

18 posted on 04/10/2014 3:16:30 AM PDT by jammer
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To: max americana

This almost looks like an internal decapitation engineered by Baker. She was most likely outvoted on the Board to hire Eich and when he started almost immediately showing the company could be led in a different direction on a more autonomous tact, she got defensive and called in her homonazi buddies to save her skin.

Evidenced the new revelations that the CEO of the faggot-pony site has also given contributions to conservative politicians and nothing happens to him, and he was the one who blew the dog whistle.

She understood what Eich could bring to the company and she got scared. It was too easy to cruise along on the Google Welfare train than to do something creative with entrepreneurship so it was “off with his head”.

Eich will bounce back with a new browser, I feel, because that is just the kind of forward thinker he has been.


19 posted on 04/10/2014 3:25:16 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: ari-freedom

PaleMoon has “web search powered by Google” on it’s default browser home page.

The url you see when you search from this page starts with “google.com”.

And it also gives you “ads by Google”.

Is “Moonchild Productions” getting paid by Google too?

My bet’s on “yes”.


20 posted on 04/10/2014 3:37:27 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: jammer

Thanks for the tip!


21 posted on 04/10/2014 4:00:48 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: fella

I, for one.


22 posted on 04/10/2014 4:42:29 AM PDT by billphx
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To: jammer

Thanks, but I was the first one to post two days ago on how to change the user agent string.


23 posted on 04/10/2014 10:29:50 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: jammer

new post from Pale Moon
http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4163


24 posted on 04/10/2014 2:25:59 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Pale Moon defaults with duckduckgo search


25 posted on 04/10/2014 2:26:28 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: jammer

“YOU MUST DECONTAMINATE PALE MOON. IT REPORTS TO WEBSITES THAT IT IS MOZILLA (Firefox). BUT THE FIX IS SIMPLE:”

Done. Now let’s see if the web doesn’t fall apart on me now :)


26 posted on 04/10/2014 2:31:18 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: ari-freedom

I had been wondering about that, thanks.


27 posted on 04/10/2014 2:34:34 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: mazda77

“She understood what Eich could bring to the company and she got scared. It was too easy to cruise along on the Google Welfare train than to do something creative with entrepreneurship so it was “off with his head”.

Even without the gay controversy, mozilla’s going downhill fast. They are behind in keeping up with webkit/blink on web standards. Most web developers have already embraced Chrome. Chrome has all the mindshare and supporting firefox is like supporting IE. No fun but just part of the job.

Mozilla’s other biggest asset was its customizable UI but instead of doing what’s best for the user, they are just copying Chrome and IE. (I’m also surprised that Opera also killed a great thing with their new dumbed down browser)

I put up with these issues because I trusted Eich and thought mozilla.org was a cause worth supporting. But now? No, it’s just another Chrome clone.


28 posted on 04/10/2014 2:42:16 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: ari-freedom

I’m not talking about the selection in the navigation toolbar. Yes, there Pale Moon defaults to Duck Duck Go, which is OK but it isn’t much good for image searches.

But if you search from the Pale Moon default start page...

http://start.palemoon.org/

...you get Google, and if you don’t use a blocker, you get a bunch of Google ads.

Just as with Firefox (if you use the Firefox default start page).

The first thing I do with any browser is make it open with a blank page, but many people don’t bother with that.

If the Pale Moon folks really think DDG is the way to go, why didn’t they put it into the start page? Maybe DDG doesn’t pay like Google does.

I have nothing against Pale Moon as a product, in some ways it works better than Firefox and the price is the same.

I’m just not convinced that they’d be any more tolerant than Mozilla was if one of their people did something in violation of the standards of political correctness.


29 posted on 04/10/2014 4:42:25 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

I don’t have a problem with subsidizing a free browser. I do have a problem with subsidizing an organization that pushed out someone for having conservative views. People who use firefox should know how mozilla is making money off their use so that they can shut off its revenue stream.


30 posted on 04/10/2014 5:38:46 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: Fresh Wind
I’m just not convinced that they’d be any more tolerant than Mozilla was if one of their people did something in violation of the standards of political correctness.

Pale Moon is produced by one guy. Read what he has to say about it: http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4178

31 posted on 04/10/2014 8:17:24 PM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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bkmk


32 posted on 04/10/2014 11:22:17 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Spirochete

So, if Pale Moon is really all the work of one guy, then he doesn’t have anyone to fire for a non-PC opinion.

That being the case, he can give all the lip service he wants to tolerance and freedom of speech because the situation at Mozilla could never happen at his Moonchild Enterprises.

Sorry, but liberals lie, and they’re also hypocrites. It’s part of being a liberal.

I don’t trust them.


33 posted on 04/11/2014 4:09:22 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: ari-freedom

LOL! ari-freedom, I “decontaminated” because, frankly, the duckduckgo was very slow and really not very good.


34 posted on 04/11/2014 9:34:07 AM PDT by jammer
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