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The end of Windows XP support could hurt ATM's
8 News Now ^ | 4-7-14 | Scott Daniels

Posted on 04/07/2014 8:16:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog

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To: smokingfrog

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21 posted on 04/07/2014 9:03:55 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Some high end products in service need a few more days. 32vs64 and that kinda stuff. We are mostly ready.

EV codes and such are behind but sometimes it is a bit complicated. No need to yell or get excited.

RR


22 posted on 04/07/2014 9:05:10 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: ansel12
Personal preference.

Most computers here are not used daily. Some are not even connected to the web.

Some not even connected to a net at all.

I got two (identical) hand-me-down "smart" phones (w/o a phone hookup). I tried them for a day, but found the small screens, my large fingers/thumbs and the limited capability mobile app/interfaces to be sub optimal to a desktop setup (old laptop running a external monitor and keyboard). The smart phones do have some advantages (Ski Tracker).

23 posted on 04/07/2014 9:07:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Feh, XP FMCDH.

Otherwise Linux and Android going forward.

24 posted on 04/07/2014 9:09:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: smokingfrog
WRONG.

People forget automatic teller machines (ATM's) and point-of-sale terminals do NOT run standard Windows XP, but a special version called Windows XP Embedded. Microsoft has publicly stated they will continue to offer security updates for Windows XP Embedded until at least 2016 and possibly as late as 2019.

25 posted on 04/07/2014 9:09:59 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: ElkGroveDan

We put Zorin8 on one of the old XP machines that the kids use...so far it’s pretty nice, so much so that I’m thinking of dual booting it on my Windows7 PC. I wonder how many folks are going to explore an alternate OS because of this?

If it wasn’t for the end of XP support, I’d have never given Linux much thought.


26 posted on 04/07/2014 9:11:19 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: Paladin2

I am fastidious about updating and security, although I don’t know the technical details of it all, I have been like that during all my years of computing and it keeps me trouble free.

Here are some ways to harden your XP if you choose to.

Here are some links for “hardening” XP.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=41138

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/secure-windows-xp-after-end-of-support-april-2014

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/securing-xp-pcs-after-microsoft-drops-support/

http://www.foxguardsolutions.com/resources/details/xp-mitigation-techniques

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/how-harden-your-browser-against-malware-and-privacy-concerns.htm

http://lifehacker.com/5940565/why-you-should-start-using-a-vpn-and-how-to-choose-the-best-one-for-your-needs


27 posted on 04/07/2014 9:22:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: RayChuang88
RE: continue to offer security updates for Windows XP Embedded

There's also this.

Support ends . . . .

"Will Microsoft Security Essentials be supported after April 8, 2014?

"Microsoft Security Essentials will not be available for download on Windows XP after April 8, 2014. If you already have Microsoft Security Essentials installed, you will continue to receive anti-malware signature updates through July 14, 2015. However, please note that PCs running Windows XP after April 8, 2014 should not be considered protected.

"Will Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool be supported after April 8, 2014?

"Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool is aligned with the company's anti-malware engines and signatures, and as such the removal tool will continue to be provided for Windows XP through July 14, 2015. However, any PC running Windows XP after April 8, 2014 should not be considered protected as there will be no security updates for the Windows XP operating system."

Just regular virus, etc. protection for another year? No patches to the operating system to prevent just find it and delete as necessary?

I cannot find it but I think I read on a MS site that continued support for XP business apps can be had for a price.

28 posted on 04/07/2014 9:26:01 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: M1911A1
Really, except for a surfing/email/streaming to TV computer there is no need for security as a computer can be completely stand alone to run apps designed for XP and older M$ o/s's with the hardware and software of the day.

So, games, text, music/audio, test equipment (frequency analyzers, O-Scope apps, etc), still pics, programming and much video can be processed offline.

29 posted on 04/07/2014 9:30:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: bigbob

Yes, it’s unlikely a virus could get into any ATM’s network.

I believe Microsoft is still offering private paid support for XP which would help those installations limp along. Maybe enterprising Linux systems engineers could produce ports for that same hardware.


30 posted on 04/07/2014 9:43:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Private antiviruses would continue to be able to do the job.


31 posted on 04/07/2014 9:45:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

To switch one computer to Windows 7 would cost me over $10,000.00 over the next two years. Win 7 will not run the version of proprietary software I use in my work, and the new version requires quarterly fees on top of the upgrade costs. The version I am running was paid for when I paid for it. No quarterly ransom.


32 posted on 04/07/2014 9:47:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: smokingfrog

A third of the computers in the world use XP. Right now I’m on an 11 year old laptop. I believe this is simply a way to sell more computers.


33 posted on 04/07/2014 10:09:09 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Here’s an idea:

RUN WINDOWS 7 INSTEAD!!!

So endeth the lesson, cheapskates.


It’s not about being “cheap’. Windows has outlived it’s usefulness.


34 posted on 04/07/2014 10:51:06 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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To: Smokin' Joe

Even if Microsoft won’t issue anti-malware, won’t the major anti-virus applications still keep up?


35 posted on 04/08/2014 12:43:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ourworldawry

True enough. Some systems might be able to migrate to Windows 7. But not all.

This sounds like a terrific opportunity for Linux, again not a panacea because even Wine can’t run all Windows applications, but many can use it and it will run on older boxen.


36 posted on 04/08/2014 12:45:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I would think so. When I finally made the move from 98SE to XP, it was because a window leaked on a site shack and the computer woke up in a puddle of water, but I seem to recall that the anti-virus still updated. My win 3.11 box was too slow for the web then, and I’d bet the next step will be to make the web (already based on sensory overstimulation) so bloated with video ads the old architecture just won’t handle the load gracefully. That’s why I quit Win95—the internet got so garbaged up with graphics the machine wouldn’t handle it. Seems I still got AV updates until I couldn’t download them.


37 posted on 04/08/2014 12:56:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: smokingfrog; All

Karl Denninger’s take is it is overblown panic:

http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=228912


38 posted on 04/08/2014 3:32:38 AM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: smokingfrog

The Windows XP support cut off should have no effect on ATMs and Kiosk deployments of Windows XP. They are all using Windows XP Embedded and support for Windows XP Embedded will continue until 2016.


39 posted on 04/08/2014 4:35:06 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Not a fan of Microsoft, but I am running Windows 7 in VirtualBox under Ubuntu. Win7 does have an emulation mode that works back as far as ME (I believe). Doesn't work for everything but if you haven't actually tried running your stuff in XP emulation mode (which should be solid as houses) I wouldn't assume that it won't work.

Fight the Free Sh☭t Nation

40 posted on 04/08/2014 4:47:51 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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