Posted on 03/30/2014 11:12:11 PM PDT by goldstategop
Patin needs to lay off Russian Catholics.
Then I will take this fluff seriously.
Freudian slip.
You’re opposed to people working together to save the family, stop abortions and halt the spread of the “French vice” in Europe?
Now who’s grandstanding?
The Left in Europe is already too aggressive.
Putin’s goons do need to lay off Russian Catholics. Then we can start working together.
Sorry steve66 but I don’t understand what you mean: “lay off Russian Catholics” - you mean Putin should not protect them anymore?
Excellent news! And we can thank Scott Lively for beginning this process of networking opposition to the agenda worldwide1
from Wikipedia:
Relations with the Russian Orthodox church have been rocky for nearly a millennium, and attempts at re-establishing Catholicism have met with opposition. Pope John Paul II for years expressed a desire to visit Russia, but the Russian Orthodox Church has for years resisted. In April 2002, Bishop Jerry Mazur of Eastern Siberia was stripped of his visa, forcing the appointment of a new bishop for that diocese. In 2002, five foreign Catholic priests were denied visas to return to Russia, construction of a new cathedral was blocked in Pskov, and a church in southern Russia was shot at. On Christmas Day 2005, Russian Orthodox activists planned to picket outside of Moscow's Catholic Cathedral, but the picket was cancelled. Despite the recent thawing of relations with the election of Pope Benedict XVI, there are still issues such as the readiness of the police to protect Catholics and other minorities from persecution.
From The Catholic Register, April 12, 2013:
Russia's Catholic Church expressed surprise and concern after a wave of raids on its parishes and charities, part of a government clampdown on organizations with foreign links.
"The Catholic Church is classified as an organization benefitting from foreign funds," explained Fr. Kirill Gulbunov, spokesman for the Moscow archdiocese, who added, "We can't help feeling surprised that associations linked with our Church are viewed as possible sources of extremism or terrorist activity."
On April 9, security agents raided the Moscow offices of Caritas, the Catholic charitable agency. On April 3, government agents "inspected" Caritas headquarters in St. Petersburg.
Gulbunov said the archdiocese had not been notified of the planned raid. He said a Catholic parish in Orel, Russia, had been told it was to be "checked" just before the raid took place.
"The people responsible have evidently received a very broad list of organizations to watch as part of this nationwide operation," the Russian priest said. "Although we can't say whether local authorities are deliberately using the operation against the Catholic Church, it has caused surprise and consternation."
In February, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered checks on thousands of nongovernmental organizations and the seizing of computers and documents, under a July 2012 law requiring groups with outside funding to register as "foreign agents."
On March 15, a Catholic parish in Novocherkassk was ordered to pay a 450,000-rouble ($14,600 U.S.) fine for allegedly failing fire safety standards.
Fr. Aleksi Polisko, rector of the city's Most Blessed Virgin Mary parish, which has just 50 regular Massgoers, told Agence France-Presse the fine was around 150 times the parish's weekly income, but said the local procurator had threatened to close his church unless it was paid within a month.
The director of Caritas in St. Petersburg, Natalya Pevtsova, told the Interfax news agency that officials had "examined everything ... from the state of our toilets to our charity documents," during the raid of her offices.
Russia's million-strong Catholic Church has long complained of discrimination in Russia and protested when a Moscow charity house belonging to Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity was bulldozed in 2011 and a Catholic parish in Pskov was barred from building its church because of "legal technicalities."
German-born Bishop Clemens Pickel of Saratov, Russia, told Germany's KNA news agency he believed the raids were legal but predicted they would place the Catholic Church, "intentionally or not, in a bad light in the eyes of the people."
Russian newspapers said the Russian Orthodox Church had not been affected by the raids.
Thank you :-)
you say “(Putin needs to lay off Russian Catholics. “
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They have rebuilt the cathedrals and churches throughout Russia - Putin is a Christian and firmly protects the church -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRgWVAfHNZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk
... only the Russian Orthodox Church.
Yes - that’s what I thought but was not sure. Putin seems to be about the only one lately to speak against the Christians massacres in the world. Thank you so much for the links.
See post #8.
... which has long been an organ of the KGB, the FSK and the FSB.
Gleb Yakunin, a critic of the Moscow Patriarchate who was one of those who briefly gained access to the KGB archive documents in the early 1990s, argued that the Moscow Patriarchate was "practically a subsidiary, a sister company of the KGB". Critics charge that the archives showed the extent of active participation of the top ROC hierarchs in the KGB efforts overseas. George Trofimoff, the highest-ranking US military officer ever indicted for, and convicted of, espionage by the United States and sentenced to life imprisonment on September 27, 2001, had been "recruited into the service of the KGB" by Igor Susemihl (a.k.a. Zuzemihl), a bishop in the Russian Orthodox Church (subsequently, a high-ranking hierarch - the ROC Metropolitan Iriney of Vienna, who died in July 1999.
Konstanin Kharchev, former chairman of Soviet Council on Religious Affairs, explained: "Not a single candidate for the office of bishop or any other high-ranking office, much less a member of Holy Synod, went through without confirmation by the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB". Professor Nathaniel Davis points out: "If the bishops wished to defend their people and survive in office, they had to collaborate to some degree with the KGB, with the commissioners of the Council for Religious Affairs, and with other party and governmental authorities.". Patriarch Alexy II, acknowledged that compromises were made with the Soviet government by bishops of the Moscow Patriarchate, himself included, and publicly repented of these compromises.
Russia is the only reason Christians have not yet been ethnically cleansed from Syria.
Your neocon heroes have totally ignored the well being of Christians in the Middle East.
Russia has the highest abortion rate in the world. How does that fit in with traditional family values?
The Mazur’s case: there was a political dimension with the Karafuto Church province issue.
The refusal to meet with the Pope is a matter of inter-church relationship, nothing to do with the government of Russia.
All other facts don’t show there’s a special contempt to the Russian Catholic Church. It’s just treated like all others. But, the Russian Orthodox Church does enjoy a privileged position over other religious groups, including the Catholic Church.
And Russian Catholics don’t number a million. There’s a million of people with Catholic heritage, but the practitioners don’t exceed 35000-40 000 people.
This is one of the major reasons that the Globalists hate Putin so much. He is operating like a Christian Nationalist.
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