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French defenders of traditional family to meet Russian religious leaders, lawmakers
Itar-Tass ^ | 03/31/2014 | Itar-Tass

Posted on 03/30/2014 11:12:11 PM PDT by goldstategop

OSCOW, March 31. /ITAR-TASS/. Representatives of French public and the Catholic Christian Church who call for protection of traditional family will hold consultations with spiritual leaders of different religions in the Russian capital of Moscow and will deliver speeches in the Russian Parliament. The French delegation will arrive in Russia on Monday to stay in the country until April 4, a branch of the Russian Orthodox Church in the Council of Europe told ITAR-TASS.

“The leadership of organization Manif pour Tous are among our guests. The organization has gathered hundreds of thousands of demonstrators against same-sex marriages and adoption of children by same-sex couples in Paris, Lyon and other French cities in 2013. Catholic Bishop of Bayonne and Oloron Marc Aillet, representatives of Strasbourg-based European centre For Law and Justice, Jerome Lejeune Foundation which opposes abortions, euthanasia and funds Down syndrome genetic research to talk people into not interrupting pregnancy if doctors suspect this disease in a future child,” envoy of the Moscow Patriarchate at the Council of Europe Hegumen Filipp (Ryabykh) told ITAR-TASS.

Members of the delegation will meet Chairman of the department of church external relations of the Moscow Patriarchate Metropolitan Hilarion and members of the Russian Inter-religious Council. Meanwhile, they are expected to have meetings in both houses of Russian Parliament, namely the Federation Council and the State Duma, and the Ministry of Labour and Social Security. “All this is organized so that Frenchmen will be able to find partners in Russia for cooperation in protection of traditional values,” Hegumen FIlipp added.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: conservatism; france; itartass; prolife; russia; traditionalvalues
Conservatism - traditional values bump
1 posted on 03/30/2014 11:12:12 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
This is grandstanding.

Patin needs to lay off Russian Catholics.

Then I will take this fluff seriously.

2 posted on 03/30/2014 11:21:45 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: Kennard
Patin Patton Putin

Freudian slip.

3 posted on 03/30/2014 11:23:15 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: Kennard

You’re opposed to people working together to save the family, stop abortions and halt the spread of the “French vice” in Europe?

Now who’s grandstanding?

The Left in Europe is already too aggressive.


4 posted on 03/30/2014 11:24:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Putin’s goons do need to lay off Russian Catholics. Then we can start working together.


5 posted on 03/30/2014 11:29:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

Sorry steve66 but I don’t understand what you mean: “lay off Russian Catholics” - you mean Putin should not protect them anymore?


6 posted on 03/30/2014 11:34:56 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: goldstategop

Excellent news! And we can thank Scott Lively for beginning this process of networking opposition to the agenda worldwide1


7 posted on 03/30/2014 11:56:47 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: American Dream 246
I don’t understand what you mean: “lay off Russian Catholics”

from Wikipedia:

Relations with the Russian Orthodox church have been rocky for nearly a millennium, and attempts at re-establishing Catholicism have met with opposition. Pope John Paul II for years expressed a desire to visit Russia, but the Russian Orthodox Church has for years resisted. In April 2002, Bishop Jerry Mazur of Eastern Siberia was stripped of his visa, forcing the appointment of a new bishop for that diocese. In 2002, five foreign Catholic priests were denied visas to return to Russia, construction of a new cathedral was blocked in Pskov, and a church in southern Russia was shot at. On Christmas Day 2005, Russian Orthodox activists planned to picket outside of Moscow's Catholic Cathedral, but the picket was cancelled. Despite the recent thawing of relations with the election of Pope Benedict XVI, there are still issues such as the readiness of the police to protect Catholics and other minorities from persecution.

From The Catholic Register, April 12, 2013:

Russia's Catholic Church expressed surprise and concern after a wave of raids on its parishes and charities, part of a government clampdown on organizations with foreign links.

"The Catholic Church is classified as an organization benefitting from foreign funds," explained Fr. Kirill Gulbunov, spokesman for the Moscow archdiocese, who added, "We can't help feeling surprised that associations linked with our Church are viewed as possible sources of extremism or terrorist activity."

On April 9, security agents raided the Moscow offices of Caritas, the Catholic charitable agency. On April 3, government agents "inspected" Caritas headquarters in St. Petersburg.

Gulbunov said the archdiocese had not been notified of the planned raid. He said a Catholic parish in Orel, Russia, had been told it was to be "checked" just before the raid took place.

"The people responsible have evidently received a very broad list of organizations to watch as part of this nationwide operation," the Russian priest said. "Although we can't say whether local authorities are deliberately using the operation against the Catholic Church, it has caused surprise and consternation."

In February, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered checks on thousands of nongovernmental organizations and the seizing of computers and documents, under a July 2012 law requiring groups with outside funding to register as "foreign agents."

On March 15, a Catholic parish in Novocherkassk was ordered to pay a 450,000-rouble ($14,600 U.S.) fine for allegedly failing fire safety standards.

Fr. Aleksi Polisko, rector of the city's Most Blessed Virgin Mary parish, which has just 50 regular Massgoers, told Agence France-Presse the fine was around 150 times the parish's weekly income, but said the local procurator had threatened to close his church unless it was paid within a month.

The director of Caritas in St. Petersburg, Natalya Pevtsova, told the Interfax news agency that officials had "examined everything ... from the state of our toilets to our charity documents," during the raid of her offices.

Russia's million-strong Catholic Church has long complained of discrimination in Russia and protested when a Moscow charity house belonging to Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity was bulldozed in 2011 and a Catholic parish in Pskov was barred from building its church because of "legal technicalities."

German-born Bishop Clemens Pickel of Saratov, Russia, told Germany's KNA news agency he believed the raids were legal but predicted they would place the Catholic Church, "intentionally or not, in a bad light in the eyes of the people."

Russian newspapers said the Russian Orthodox Church had not been affected by the raids.

8 posted on 03/31/2014 12:22:14 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: Kennard

Thank you :-)


9 posted on 03/31/2014 1:02:22 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: Kennard; All

you say “(Putin needs to lay off Russian Catholics. “

??????????????????????

They have rebuilt the cathedrals and churches throughout Russia - Putin is a Christian and firmly protects the church -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRgWVAfHNZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk

http://answersforthefaith.com/2013/08/08/putin-world-leaders-should-unite-to-end-christian-persecution/

http://www.123rf.com/photo_7308397_the-restored-cathedral-of-christ-the-savior-in-moscow-at-night.html


10 posted on 03/31/2014 1:07:11 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: maine-iac7
They have rebuilt the cathedrals and churches throughout Russia - Putin is a Christian and firmly protects the church

... only the Russian Orthodox Church.

11 posted on 03/31/2014 1:16:33 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: maine-iac7

Yes - that’s what I thought but was not sure. Putin seems to be about the only one lately to speak against the Christians massacres in the world. Thank you so much for the links.


12 posted on 03/31/2014 1:18:44 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: maine-iac7

See post #8.


13 posted on 03/31/2014 1:19:27 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: Kennard
only the Russian Orthodox Church

... which has long been an organ of the KGB, the FSK and the FSB.

14 posted on 03/31/2014 1:21:04 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: American Dream 246
Putin's support for any Christians is purely opportunism and limited to rhetoric. He support the Russian Orthodox Church because he controls it and because he wants it to help him control the Russian people. He didn't spend 16 years in the KGB to become a great Christian, and he didn't accrue a personal wealth of $75 billion by practicing Christian doctrine.
15 posted on 03/31/2014 1:43:01 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: elhombrelibre
from Wikipedia on the Russian Orthodox Church:

Gleb Yakunin, a critic of the Moscow Patriarchate who was one of those who briefly gained access to the KGB archive documents in the early 1990s, argued that the Moscow Patriarchate was "practically a subsidiary, a sister company of the KGB". Critics charge that the archives showed the extent of active participation of the top ROC hierarchs in the KGB efforts overseas. George Trofimoff, the highest-ranking US military officer ever indicted for, and convicted of, espionage by the United States and sentenced to life imprisonment on September 27, 2001, had been "recruited into the service of the KGB" by Igor Susemihl (a.k.a. Zuzemihl), a bishop in the Russian Orthodox Church (subsequently, a high-ranking hierarch - the ROC Metropolitan Iriney of Vienna, who died in July 1999.

Konstanin Kharchev, former chairman of Soviet Council on Religious Affairs, explained: "Not a single candidate for the office of bishop or any other high-ranking office, much less a member of Holy Synod, went through without confirmation by the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB". Professor Nathaniel Davis points out: "If the bishops wished to defend their people and survive in office, they had to collaborate to some degree with the KGB, with the commissioners of the Council for Religious Affairs, and with other party and governmental authorities.". Patriarch Alexy II, acknowledged that compromises were made with the Soviet government by bishops of the Moscow Patriarchate, himself included, and publicly repented of these compromises.

16 posted on 03/31/2014 1:58:03 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: elhombrelibre

Russia is the only reason Christians have not yet been ethnically cleansed from Syria.

Your neocon heroes have totally ignored the well being of Christians in the Middle East.


17 posted on 03/31/2014 4:16:55 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: goldstategop

Russia has the highest abortion rate in the world. How does that fit in with traditional family values?


18 posted on 03/31/2014 4:22:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kennard

The Mazur’s case: there was a political dimension with the Karafuto Church province issue.

The refusal to meet with the Pope is a matter of inter-church relationship, nothing to do with the government of Russia.

All other facts don’t show there’s a special contempt to the Russian Catholic Church. It’s just treated like all others. But, the Russian Orthodox Church does enjoy a privileged position over other religious groups, including the Catholic Church.

And Russian Catholics don’t number a million. There’s a million of people with Catholic heritage, but the practitioners don’t exceed 35000-40 000 people.


19 posted on 03/31/2014 4:41:32 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: American Dream 246
Putin seems to be about the only one lately to speak against the Christians massacres in the world.

This is one of the major reasons that the Globalists hate Putin so much. He is operating like a Christian Nationalist.

20 posted on 03/31/2014 5:09:21 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Russia has the highest abortion rate in the world.

Give the Russians a chance. They suffered under eighty years of foreign imposed Communism and a very difficult social transformation out of it.

21 posted on 03/31/2014 5:13:24 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Kennard

Dennis Prager says we are in a war of the world views: Islamo-fascist, liberal secular and Judeo Christian.
Putin is reaching out to traditional Christians in Europe, building himself up as not just the defender of Russians but traditional Christian values.


22 posted on 03/31/2014 6:48:03 AM PDT by tbw2
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