Posted on 03/27/2014 6:21:24 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
Cardinal Donald Wuerl has been the most outspoken of those bishops who refuse to obey Canon 915, but all of them [Wuerl, Dolan, O'Malley, Chaput, George...] are on record, as he is, as endorsing the commission of MORTAL SINS by their priests and other ministers of Communion. Cardinal Wuerl has even punished those who have obeyed Canon 915.
Of course, this is something he has no right to do, because no bishop has the authority to command anyone to commit a mortal sin!
“Bearing in mind the nature of the above-cited norm (cfr. n. 1), no ecclesiastical authority may dispense the minister of Holy Communion from this obligation in any case, nor may he emanate directives that contradict it.”
http://tinyurl.com/pont915
Cardinal Wuerl and many other bishops have been doing PRECISELY what they are EXPRESSLY forbidden to do by this statement from the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts!
(Excerpt) Read more at all.org ...
Antinomianism--LAWLESSNESS--is the hallmark of this age, in the White House, in Congress, and among the Catholic bishops. And Donald Wuerl, the Cardinal Archbishop of Washington, is the most outspoken proponent of antinomianism in the Catholic hierarchy.
I wish ZERO'S mama had had an abortion.
I too am opposed to abortion until I think about the mothers of ZERO, Biden, Hitlery, Dingy Harry. etc.
There is a difference between opposing the prohibition of a particular action and actually committing that action.
For instance, it is possible to be in favor of decriminalization of certain drugs without having ever used those drugs oneself. That is, in fact, my position.
While I’m prolife myself, I think claiming that politicians who are pro-choice are therefore themselves guilty of every abortion committed is stretching the argument a step too far.
Not a Catholic myself, so don’t know whether an opinion is classified as a sin.
Does opposition to the prohibition of abortion constitute “obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin” per Catholic doctrine?
There is a line somewhere between ministering to sinners and condoning their sins.
You should be ashamed. No baby has done anything to deserve the death penalty.
Yes.
No, it isn't.
If Hitler merely made an edict that German Aryans can kill German Jews at will... OK, it's a true analog, but let's avoid the Argumentum ad Hitleram... if some American president said black people can kill white people at will Or, of course, vice versa) --- and we'll even pay so that this form of "care" can be carried out by he millionfold --- wouldn't that president share guilt in every killing that was committed?
That's what the political abortion enthusiasts are doing. They are accomplices on not just one, not just two, but many levels:
I’ll answer. Yes.
Under that logic, maybe Adolph Hitler never did anything to warrant his sordid place in history, no?
God, Who is Merciful, desires their conversion that they might have everlasting life. This should be our prayer.
Your responsibilty is to pray for their conversion.
Not to damn them.
Yes, I know how difficult that is.
We are told that as Catholics, abortion is a non-negotiable issue, and therefore, we are not to vote for pro-choice candidates. If the Church is serious about that, then, these pro-choice politicians should not be getting communion.
I always go back to the story about the adulteress who was to be stoned by the mob. Jesus stopped them from condemning her to death and stoning her. But he told her to go and sin no more.
Many on the left read the words “neither do I condemn you” and use the modern definition to read it as “neither do I criticize you”. Then they leave out “go and sin no more” entirely. He didn’t tell her that what she was doing was no longer a sin now that he had come into the world to save it.
This is also the answer to those who say “Well, if we are to apply Biblical law to homosexuality, why don’t we sell our daughters into slavery if they have extra-marital sex?” It’s because we are to condemn the sin but not the sinner. Forgive them - but tell them that it’s still sinful and they need to stop.
May I ask, does your bishop obey Canon 915? Have you ever denied Communion to a parishioner for this reason?
If these politicians voted in favor of abortion, or did not prevent it from happening while they could have, they are accountable for abortions.
And that goes even more for judges who publicly proclaimed that abortions may be performed.
Authority goes hand in hand with responsibility.
That wishy-washiness of the Catholic Church resulted in the scandal that more than 50% of their congregation voted for the very person who promotes mass murder of unborn children.
By extension, these voters are guilty of mass murder.
And with it,
Can. 916 A person who is conscious of grave sin is not to celebrate Mass or receive the body of the Lord without previous sacramental confession unless there is a grave reason and there is no opportunity to confess; in this case the person is to remember the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition which includes the resolution of confessing as soon as possible.- http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_P39.HTM
But as i understand it, the decision to excommunicated is left to the local ordinary, though he can be overruled, but not by you as a peon. See more on this issue here. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2901874/posts?page=68#68
That is his interpretation of 915, shared by many, of canon 915, and if Rome does not formally excommunicate Rcs like Kerry, etc., discipline him Wuerl and the multitudes of known liberal RCs,, then it is implicitly sanctioning him a as what your really believe is shown by what you do. (Ja. 2:18)
“...there’s a question about whether this canon’’ – the relevant church law – “was ever intended to be used’’ to bring politicians to heel. "I stand with the great majority of American bishops and bishops around the world in saying this canon [Canon 915] was never intended to be used this way.'' -- http://www.canonlaw.info/2009/03/abps-wuerl-c-916-burke-cc-915-916-on.html
Albany Bishop Howard Hubbard says it is “unfair and imprudent” to conclude that Gov. Andrew Cuomo and his girlfriend, Sandra Lee, shouldn’t receive Communion simply because they’re living together. — from the thread Bishop: None of your business (Hubbard rejects Catholic expert’s criticism of Gov. Cuomo; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2679260/posts)
[Archbishop Timothy Dolan] also does not outright deny the sacrament to dissenting Catholic lawmakers, but he is seen as an outspoken defender of church orthodoxy in a style favored by many theological conservatives. — from the thread US bishops elect NYC archbishop as head in upset (Catholic bloggers blamed) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711746/posts?page=289#289
And you have Notre Dame, approving the use of student organization funds to finance a trip for five of its students to Washington DC for a rally supporting Gay “marriage.” The Notre Dame students marched two miles across D.C. and then joined gay rights activists for a Capitol Hill rally. - http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/CardinalNewmanSociety/tabid/36/ctl/Details/mid/435/ItemID/710/Default.aspx
And the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops inviting President Barack Obama to attend the annual dinner of the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation (Founded Francis Cardinal Spellman in 1946 to help the poor of NYC), on October 18, where he can expected to be applauded, not reproved, and which he will used to infer approval.
What is more on that aspect, after examining the official web sites of 244 Catholic universities and colleges in America, the TFP Student Action found that 107 – or 43% have pro-homosexual clubs. TFP Student Action Dec. 6. 2011; studentaction.org/get-involved/online-petitions/pro-homosexual-clubs-at-107-catholic-colleges/print.html
Consider how your last conservative pope treated Ted Kennedy, and tell me what that conveys.
He wrote to the pope, delivered by Pres. Obama, and the pope wrote back (through a senior Vatican official), out of which Cardinal McCarrick read, in which there was neither any evident penitence by the former or censure from the latter. Instead Kennedy insolently asserted he “never failed to believe and respect the fundamental teachings” of his church, and tried to be a faithful Catholic, etc..
The closest thing we get to any kind of contrition is the ambiguous, “I know that I have been an imperfect human being, but with the help of my faith, I have tried to right my path,” before he goes on to to defend his wonderful works, including fighting discrimination. Not a word of remorse about supporting abortion or promoting homosexual rights - which were part of his fight against discrimination, or promoting indolence and a welfare state.
And all we have from the papal response is no chastisement, but the pope expressing that, "he is particularly grateful for your promise of prayers for him and for the needs of the universal Church," and "invokes upon you the consolation and peace promised by the Risen Savior, and “cordially imparts his Apostolic Blessing as a pledge of wisdom, comfort and strength in the Lord.” (http://www.thebostonpilot.com/articleprint.asp?id=10800/)
Yet according to Canon 1184 §, unless they gave some signs of repentance before death, the following must be deprived of ecclesiastical funerals: 1/ notorious apostates, heretics, and schismatics; 2/ those who chose the cremation of their bodies for reasons contrary to Christian faith; 3/ other manifest sinners who cannot be granted ecclesiastical funerals without public scandal of the faithful. (http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_P4X.HTM; http://www.ewtn.com/library/liturgy/zlitur280.htm)
Now you can talk all you want about latae sententiae, but if Rome treats such as members in life and in death, then it is obvious that that the conservative RC interpretation is not what Rome manifestly subscribes to and effectually conveys.
And thus they are your brethren, part of your church, exampling what Rome sanctions, and you must own them.
But RCs attack conservative evangelicals who were once part of the liberal RC church .
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