At it's inception at the behest of Edgar Kaiser, Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can … the reason he can do it … I had Edgar Kaiser come in … talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because …the less care they give them, the more money they make. Just a different system of insurance, this time round mandated by the government rather than competing in the marketplace, where the HMO model has been rejected by many consumers.
First time I remembering quoting John Ehrilchcman on FR, but essentially that's Obamacare, mandated HMOs (include Medicaid in that). Nothing wrong with Kaiser making a profit, and credit to them for developing a new system. Shame on Obama for attempting to force it on the market rather than offering it. Understandable, since Barry knows better than us what's good for us.
In fairness to John, he opposed the idea, though despite the fact that Nixon was wrong about the future of HMOs, no reason they shouldn't be in the marketplace, but a marketplace of consumer choice. Not mandated, nor subsidized by taxpayers.
Then we should now refer to it as " ObamaSurance ", the subsidy that keeps takeing !?
That was always my argument. EVERYBODY could get health care......all they had to do was walk into an ER. I could argue all day that it was just the INSURANCE they didn’t have. The only come back was ‘yes, but they have to wait so long in the ER’. My retort was always: ‘so your real problem is that people might have to wait a while for their FREE CARE IN THE ER’. They never could respond to that one; but the truth sure made the Libs angry.
Been telling people this for years. They don’t listen.
‘Offers’ should say ‘mandates’
PPO’s are a choice on the governments health insurance ‘marketplace’ ... they are very expensive.
The average person cannot afford them, even with subsidies.
But they are offered.
They talked about “universal healthcare” for a reason. The goal was always complete government control over healthcare.
It is not really insurance either. I don’t call a policy that charges $1300 a month and a $12000 deductible insurance......I call it theft.
That is what Obamacare quoted for just me and hubby.
Another thing not generally being reported is that this law sliced Health savings accounts limits in half. The administration doesn’t want anyone but themselves in charge of health care. Obamacare is simply a means to get universal health care via the government.
The more I read articles like this, the more surprised I am people don’t seem to grasp how deep in $hit we are now.