Skip to comments.Report: 57% of Cigarettes Sold in New York Are Smuggled
Posted on 03/21/2014 7:00:51 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
A majority of the cigarettes for sale in New York are illegally smuggled into the state, according to a report out Wednesday from the conservative research group the Tax Foundation.
According to the report, 56.9% of the cigarettes sold in New Yorkthe highest importer of smuggled cigarettesoriginated from out of state. Since 2006, cigarette smuggling in the state has risen sharply, by 59%, in tandem with a massive hike in cigarette taxes of 190%. New York state now has the highest cigarette taxes in the country, at $4.35 a pack. Residents of NYC must also pay an extra $1.50 per pack.
The state with the highest rate of outbound cigarette smuggling is relatively low tax New Hampshire, which is only a short drive away from New York.
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No on could have predicted this!
As John McCain once said: "Make it 100(%)!"
This was predictable by anyone with brain. Didn’t prohibition teach us anything?
They could generate more revenue from a lower tax rate, but that would be against their religion.
Most smuggled product in the country.
So, how much does a pack of smuggled cigarettes compare to the current price of legal cigarettes?
Yep. However this is worse than Prohibition, I believe in the cigarette smuggling racket, Hezbollah and Hamas are big players. Instead of enriching your local hoodlum, our current stupidity is shoveling cash into the coffers of Islamic terrorists. Just great.
Not sure, but the price of a carton of cigarettes in KY, WV or NH has got to be significantly lower than a carton in New York City.
Next years headline....
57 % of millionaires leave NYC....
What’s a pack of Luckies go for in NYC now? I am guessing about $14 a pack...
SOLUTION: Nationalize cigarette sales.
I drive to PA for cigarettes and ammo. cigarettes are half the price of NY ammo has no background check/listing of suitable weapons and it’s 40 minutes away.
Sure, Princess Andy, I may live in NY, I shop in PA and Delaware. I pay almost zero in NY sales taxes...and there are more NY plates in PA and Delaware shopping malls than locals.
My wife and I are both smokers and here in OH, it cost about $60 for a carton.
Several years ago we bought a machine that single roles cigarettes. We buy loose cigarette tobacco from a local tobacco shop along with tubes (with filters). The tobacco cost about $11 and the tubes about $2 a box of 20. So, with a little time spent on the rolling machine (about 20 min. per carton) and less than $20, we get about three cartons.
And the tobacco is without preservatives and other government introduced junk.
I’m sure the Feds are hot on the trail of this and our cheap pleasure is doomed in the near future.
The sell the smuggled cigs for the state mandated minimum in stores all over NY. Smuggled is cheaper than buying wholesale in NY.
Totally proves that “legalizing” marijuana will eradicate all criminal activity that comes with marijuana. Just look at how taxing tobacco has solved all criminal activity stemming from it.
A pack of cigarettes in NYC is close to $12 per pack and more for loosies ($2.00 per stick)
Outside DeBlasio land a pack is $10.40
You can buy a carton of name brand for $48 in Delaware and $56 in PA.
The margin for cigs is 6% at state minimum. so at 10 per pack they buy them from the wholesalers at $9.35 per. Buy them out of state for half that and the state has hornswaggled the Indians into towing the line and their prices are only a $1.00 less per pack on the reservations.
Then you can buy at the local Indian reservation.
Not as cheap as I can roll them myself.
Sorry, I meant the supplies. Cheers!
AMEN! Now they have to put out the money to try and stop all the smuggling.
Around here, legal smokes are about $80/carton while the going rate on the black market is $20-25.
Nanny State PING!
A federal tax is needed to stop interstate arbitrage.
Probably pull in a grand or more at today's prices.
A federal tax is needed to stop interstate arbitrage.”
Ah yes, spoken like a good servant to the supreme government.
Ah yes, spoken like a true addict.
so what is the penalty for smuggling or selling untaxed ny cigarettes in ny?
Wow! I quit smoking cigarettes 10 years ago when they went to around $3.40 a pack here in California. They were just 25¢ a pack when I started smoking in the mid 1960s.
Spoken like someone who is addicted to a government solution to all the ills of a society.
No one cares how gay you are.
You seem to be obsessed with it. What you looking for a hookup. Look elsewhere.
The scum sucking slime bags are probably already scheduling a no knock raid on your house, so be careful.
Having done nothing wrong, I worry not. Everything I buy and everything I smoke is legal in the state of Ohio. It is the small business tobacco shops I worry about.
The shop I used had machines that rolled the cigarettes for you ... state did away with those.
One government step at a time.
All you need is a controlled commodity, a geopolitical boundary, and a price difference. Boom, you have smuggling.
Why dont they just double the tax to make up for it?
Then you get an international arbitrage. The cartels would love it.
Most of the people around my area smoke Indian Cigs.
When I was a smoker and lived in Montana I found the price for a carton went up to $70 overnight (for the children) so I got them mailed to me from NY. Some Indian reservation there. Elliot Spitzer put a stop to that by telling UPS that they couldn’t pick up packages from the reservations or else. Now we have Most cigs bought in NEW York on the black market.
“so what is the penalty for smuggling or selling untaxed ny cigarettes in ny?”
Apparently it is a felony.
Interesting; many years ago I was in upstate NY when NYC had reached $10 per pack. The Indian reservation outside Niagara Falls NY was selling the same cigs at $22 per carton. They took down your license plate, but we could only buy 2 cartons anyway (since we were going into Ontario the next day, and you could only bring a carton apiece).
Amusingly, with a 190% increase and 57% smuggling, they are only collecting 82% of the revenue they would without that tax and with no smuggling. I suspect they would increase their revenue by repealing the tax to reduce the profits on both smuggling and buying smuggled tobacco. Liberals would never follow that advice, even if they understood it.
Only 57% Who is buying the platinum priced cigs?
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