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Former Top Putin Advisor Sounds The Alarm: Putin Has Already Declared War On Kiev
Forbes ^ | March 17, 2014 | By Paul Roderick Gregory Contributor

Posted on 03/17/2014 8:39:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Andrei Illarionov, formerly Vladimir Putin’s top economic advisor (and personal envoy to the G8) , has warned in an interview with Ukrainian television that Putin has already declared war on Kiev. Putin’s war is being conducted by Russian Spetsnaz (special operations) forces and KGB (now called FSB) agents and is aimed at toppling the pro-Western government in Kiev. The Spetsnaz forces’ orders include the sowing of civil unrest throughout Ukraine via strikes, demonstrations, staged incidents, and street battles. Putin’s subversive forces will also gin up neo-Nazi incidents with Nazi regalia and Swastikas on full display. Their orders include as well the deliberate killing of Russian soldiers and of ethnic Russian civilians to prove the hatred and extremism of radical Ukrainian nationalists. These orders come from Putin himself. Their goal is to create an image of intolerable chaos and loss of civil authority to justify a Russian takeover of all Ukraine. Putin’s goal is the destruction of pro-Western authority in Ukraine, the total humiliation of the West, and a makeover of the geopolitical balance.

Illiaronov’s urgent advice to Ukraine: Place all your effort into preserving civil order and avoid falling for the Spetsnaz provocations. (This will be difficult as Spetsnaz-organized gangs are already storming public buildings in East Ukraine). Ukrainian authorities must immediately close all borders with Russia to slow the infiltration of Spetsnaz and FSB destabilization units. Ukrainian TV and radio must immediately broadcast all their news in Russian or in English because many Ukrainian citizens and Russians do not understand Ukrainian.

Illarianov pleads that the whole world understand what Putin is up to. A Putin success in taking over Ukraine would change Europe and the balance of power and lead to further “restorations” of the former Soviet Union...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; obama; ptin; putinistas; putinsbuttboys; russia; surrendermonkeys; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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To: Army Air Corps

It’s not like the US or EU could or would do anything about it


21 posted on 03/17/2014 9:19:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Ms. Blunt

“The IMF wanted the Ukrainian banks, and they started this mess”

Not quite correct....

We KNOW that the Ukraine was destabilized by Open Society NGO’s, with the help of the Obama Administration’s Ambassador to Europe, using the same strategy they have used to cause chaos in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, and Syria.

Remember, Russia has been warning for a couple of years now that “Certain people in the West” were trying to destabilize Eastern Europe for “nefarious means”. Russia has even gone so far as to expel USAID, and the Open Society NGO’s a year ago.

The Russians knew this was coming, and the only people surprised that Putin did act when Ukraine finally fell apart are the Western Press, that have been too busy licking Obama’s shoes to dare print anything that might make him look like a foreign policy fool.

Crimea is too important to Russia, historically and economically, to allow it to be cut off permanently, which was possible with the new “leadership” in Ukraine.


22 posted on 03/17/2014 9:22:07 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: goldstategop

Sounds like California, Mexico


23 posted on 03/17/2014 9:22:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Thunder90

Russia is pursuing Great Power goals - Communism is dead as an ideology but Russian nationalism is very much alive. There is a sense that Russia is different from the rootless and decadent West. Putin’s Russia is confident of its own strength that was never true of the late USSR. Russia is still the largest country in the world. And the West has never been able to really subdue it though both Napoleon and Hitler tried and failed.


24 posted on 03/17/2014 9:23:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jim Robinson
Andrei Illarionov, formerly Vladimir Putin’s top economic advisor (and personal envoy to the G8) , has warned in an interview with Ukrainian television that Putin has already declared war on Kiev. Putin’s war is being conducted by Russian Spetsnaz (special operations) forces and KGB (now called FSB) agents and is aimed at toppling the pro-Western government in Kiev. The Spetsnaz forces’ orders include the sowing of civil unrest throughout Ukraine via strikes, demonstrations, staged incidents, and street battles. Putin’s subversive forces will also gin up neo-Nazi incidents with Nazi regalia and Swastikas on full display. Their orders include as well the deliberate killing of Russian soldiers and of ethnic Russian civilians to prove the hatred and extremism of radical Ukrainian nationalists.

And folks will believe it.

I wish Ukrainians the best.

25 posted on 03/17/2014 9:23:44 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: KC_Lion; Norm Lenhart

War Never Changes Ping.


26 posted on 03/17/2014 9:25:09 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: goldstategop

The West is weak, morally and spiritually, and Russia is filling the void. It’s not pleasant to contemplate, but there it is. Solzhenitsyn tried to warn us.


27 posted on 03/17/2014 9:25:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Psalm 144
"War is a racket."

"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."
Smedley D. Butler, MajGen, USMC (Ret.), Medal of Honor (x2)
War is a Racket (1935)

28 posted on 03/17/2014 9:25:52 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: goldstategop
Russia is pursuing Great Power goals - Communism is dead as an ideology but Russian nationalism is very much alive.

It's more than just nationalism. Nationalism in and of itself isn't a bad thing. It's a tyranny that's very much alive.

29 posted on 03/17/2014 9:27:02 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Ms. Blunt
"...neo-Nazis..." Really? You paint with a broad brush. Putler (as he is called in Ukraine) is the Nazi and Yanukovych is the thug. These are their victims. YushchenkoB4andAfterDioxin photo YushchenkoB4afterDioxin_zps068bc775.jpg KievProtests2014Ukraine photo kyiv-protestsyy_zpse94ab15c.jpg UkraineWomenBiathlonTeam photo UkainianFemaleBiathlonTeam_zps91770cc0.jpg Protests2014_Kiev_Ukraine photo kiev-protests_zps4cb08aaf.jpg Tymoshenko and Klitschko photo TymoshenkoandKlitschko_zps7e31e399.jpg
30 posted on 03/17/2014 9:27:22 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Girlene
Here are some..

patriot/svoboda

svoboda

Russia Opens Criminal Case against Svoboda Leader Oleg Tyagnibok

Miroshnychenko also called the Ukrainian-born American film actress Mila Kunis a “dirty Jewess.”
More at the above link about skin color and neo-nazi same old ethnic worship and hatred, esp toward the Jews. So sad, it's all been done before...

I will go back through my previous posts to find the one that talked about nationalizing all the land and returning it to only ethnic Ukrainians..

31 posted on 03/17/2014 9:28:36 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: goldstategop

Very much like the former Czechoslovakia, little Slovak spoken in Prague, and little Czech spoken in Bratislava......But they worked it out.


32 posted on 03/17/2014 9:31:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Girlene
Farmlands are to be state-owned and given to farmers in hereditary use

Still looking for the other link though.

33 posted on 03/17/2014 9:32:19 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Jim Robinson
Stalin's forced Famine. 7 million Ukrainians starved to death.

Hitler's Generalplan Ost. 5 million ethnic Ulkrainians and 1 million Jews exterminated in Ukraine.

The Soviet Union and communism.

Then 22 years of indendence.

Now Putin "Declares War".

With Crimea "gone", Ukraine is about 80% ethnic Ukrainian.

I wish them the best.

34 posted on 03/17/2014 9:34:06 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: dfwgator

and they love pork.


35 posted on 03/17/2014 9:39:14 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Girlene
link here, Telegraph
36 posted on 03/17/2014 9:43:39 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema
Moscow and Russia have plenty of skinheads and Nazis of their own but it would be wrong to say they control the streets just like it is very wrong to say that Ukrainian "thugs" or "Nazis" control the streets. This pic shows the Moscow variety: SkinheadsNationalistsMoscow2013 photo SkinheadsNationalistsMoscow2013_zps236e9a9b.jpg
37 posted on 03/17/2014 9:43:39 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: FreeReign

You may want to wish that for the 20% who don’t meet the ethnic Ukrainian standard, esp if they are Jewish.
It doesn’t look good for them. At best they will be second-class citizens.


38 posted on 03/17/2014 9:45:23 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: dfwgator
There's not much difference, it's like speaking high German and low. I suspect it's the almost the same with the Ukrainian and Russian ‘languages’.
39 posted on 03/17/2014 9:45:59 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Monterrosa-24
In Ukraine they are holding very high government positions however and making policy based on their neo-nazi thinking.

Big difference. Putin would never allow that in Russia.

40 posted on 03/17/2014 9:46:27 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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