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Christianity already being forced out in Russian-controlled Crimea
The Canada Free Press ^ | Monday, March 17, 2014 | Judi McLeod

Posted on 03/17/2014 7:45:53 AM PDT by justlittleoleme

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To: justlittleoleme
Putin continues to show his true colors.

Surely, it is still not enough for some of the dictator's stalwart defenders on FR.

41 posted on 03/17/2014 9:01:25 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Buckeye McFrog
There are quite a few muslims in the Ukraine and Crimea.
‘As of 2012 an estimated 500,000 Muslims lived in Ukraine and about 300,000 of them were Crimean Tatars.[1] Today Islam is the largest minority religion in Ukraine after various forms of Christianity.’
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Ukraine
These are the survivors of the Russian death camps that starved millions to death. Then the poor SOBs were invaded by Germany. The Russians may end up killing those that are left.
There are reports of Russians torturing and killing Crimean Muslims. The torture was the real deal, not just putting panties on their heads and photographing them.
Like the shameful record of the New York Times in abetting the coverup of the the Russian death camps in the 1930s, the modern day flacks for Liberalism at the New York Times will continue the coverup of genocide by the Russians in the Ukraine.
TWB
42 posted on 03/17/2014 9:13:34 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin, the Flame of the North)
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To: dfwgator

I think your take is more accurate than the headline in this story. It is not “Christianity” that is being driven out or harassed, but rather non-Orthodox Christianity. I am currently reading “Russian Orthodoxy Resurgent,” an analysis of the connection between faith and power in contemporary Russia. It is a development that has largely gone unnoticed in the Western press. Russia - like the US and several other world powers - has its own concept of “exceptionalism” and world-mission. Acknowledging the existence of this development does not make someone “pro-Putin” as elhombre and others accuse.


43 posted on 03/17/2014 9:16:44 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: justlittleoleme

The Russian tradition is the Orthodox Church which is a Christian church.

The problem is that among the Orthodox there is hostility towards Catholics and Protestants.

There are Christians in Russia, its just that they are of a different branch that holds Protestants and Catholics in disdain.


44 posted on 03/17/2014 9:24:15 AM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Breto

He hates Christianity, the Constitution, and capitalism.


45 posted on 03/17/2014 9:28:50 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Texas Fossil

The Orthodox intolerance towards Protestants and Catholics is a problem to begin with, but in the USSR Communist Era the Russian Orthodox Church was infiltrated and subverted by KGB agents.

Now we have a KGB man in charge of Russia, Putin.


46 posted on 03/17/2014 9:28:52 AM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: justlittleoleme
I'll believe this horse manure when Obama intervenes and successfully saves these Christians. Otherwise it's just Neo-Con Fascista propaganda.
47 posted on 03/17/2014 9:40:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Putin sees himself as a modern-day Peter the Great, and understands that he needs the support of the Russian Orthodox Church to maintain his power base.

Those being suppressed are Greek Orthodox and Ukranian Catholics, not Russian Orthodox. Perhaps the Ressian Orthodox will be brought in to fill in the hole left by driving out the other sects?

48 posted on 03/17/2014 9:45:50 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Nextrush

Exactly.

But he projects a old macho image to all the little girls. hee hee hee


49 posted on 03/17/2014 9:52:45 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil

“...they were totally subverted into organs of state propaganda..”

During the USSR days, Russian Orthodox churches were converted into government buildings, many destroyed. Clergy were imprisoned, many killed and children were taught in government schools “there is no God.”


50 posted on 03/17/2014 9:53:26 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: pgkdan

Why aren’t you in school learning something?


51 posted on 03/17/2014 9:58:28 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: elpadre

It is said that Vlad was brought up by his mother in the Russian Orthodox Church. I am sceptical of that claim, but it is possible.

It makes no difference though. Vlad is no friend of Freedom. Vlad has nothing but contempt for the concept of Democracy or a genuine Republic.

I tell my Egyptian friends that the path to Freedom is not through Russia. Some get it, others don’t.

Those older people in the Western Ukraine have suffered under Russian domination. The hatred for the Holodomor is very real and will be passed for generations.

A friend of mine in Moscow, says they can band with Poland and similar countries. That is not a bad idea actually. The EU is not a much better path for them. They offer national death by socialism. But I am not sure that the Ukrainians understand that yet.


52 posted on 03/17/2014 10:03:35 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: dfwgator

The Russian Orthodox church is known to many as “the dark side of Christianity”.


53 posted on 03/17/2014 10:12:13 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elhombrelibre

These are a few nut cases —radical Russians—operating. Once this settle down all will be much the same. Putin doesn’t want to get rid of Non-Orthodox Christians—just the ones who oppose him. Once Cremea is part of RF—this will stop.


54 posted on 03/17/2014 11:27:28 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

It must be comforting to know that if they follow the rules and kiss Putin’s bum they’ll be allowed to preach the faith.


55 posted on 03/17/2014 12:00:06 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: justlittleoleme

This is total nonsense, made up accusations. The only people who are complaining are some Muslims, the tatars, who are a minority of 10% and can’t impose their Muslim religion on Christians.

See this article:

Don’t underestimate importance of religion for understanding Russia’s actions in Crimea

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/03/13/dont-underestimate-importance-of-religion-for-understanding-russias-actions-in-crimea/

“The revival of religion following the Soviet collapse brought Crimea once again into the Russian spiritual orbit. From the 1990s, the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine (UOC-MP) competed successfully with other branches of the Ukrainian Orthodox Churches to restore Crimean Christian holy places. The Russian church ignored protests of Muslim Crimean Tatars to install crosses in major population points”

“At the center of the controversy, the Russian Orthodox Church began building a church on top of the ruins of Chersonesos without the consent of the museum preserve or the Ukrainian government. It also hired a helicopter to airlift a gazebo to mark the baptismal font of St. Vladimir on the ruins (see photo below). Four years later, President Vladimir Putin joined then-Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma as the Russian Orthodox cross was raised over the completed church on the ruins of Chersonesos.”


56 posted on 03/18/2014 6:58:31 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: cdcdawg

That was pretty amazing what he/she just did to you. I’m seeing that all too often on FR.

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57 posted on 03/18/2014 10:58:12 AM PDT by dmz
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