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1 posted on 03/03/2014 11:17:50 AM PST by kronos77
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I love the little dance going on here. Kerry is pretending to be serious while Russia is pretending to take him seriously.


2 posted on 03/03/2014 11:19:39 AM PST by circlecity
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I don't support Russia. I don't like Putin. Stalin murdered millions of Ukrainians, and they are right to hate and fear Russia. That said, the kindergarten-level of reporting on Crimea is not helpful.

The Crimea is Russia's REAL "red line." Note I said Crimea, not Ukraine.

Crimea was part of Russia for over 200 years, since the 1780s, until Nikita Khrushchev literally gifted it to Ukraine in 1954 in order to purchase the support of their party bosses during his accession after the death of Stalin.

Before Russia, it belonged to the Ottoman Empire, now defunct. Before that, it belonged to the city-state of Venice, going back to before Columbus discovered America. But the Crimea was NEVER part of Ukraine, until Khrushchev’s unilateral “gift."

(Imagine if President Eisenhower, as a dictator on his own, gave Long Island and NYC to Connecticut as part of an internal United States political deal to secure CT’s critically needed support during a contested election or coup. That is how Crimea became part of the Ukraine.)

In 1954, the political gift of the Crimea was an internal USSR matter, not an international matter. Ukraine was then the Ukraine SSR, within the USSR. In 1991, the USSR broke apart, and Khrushchev’s personal gift suddenly mattered. But despite the gift and the fluke that led Crimea to become part of the modern sovereign nation of Ukraine, Crimea has always been 90%+ ethnic Russian, and as always, it contains Russia’s most critical naval bases, air force bases and sea ports.

In fact, Crimea is far more Russian than Hawaii is American. It’s foolish and naïve to believe that the Russians will risk losing the Crimea during a period of chaos in greater Ukraine.

If you want to see Russia's REAL "red line," threaten their control of the Crimea, and its naval bases and seaports. I'm not supporting Russia's position, I just want folks to know that this is a much more complicated picture than "Evil Russia invades poor innocent Ukraine," which is the kindergarten/MSM version of Crimean history.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 11:24:52 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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I’m sure the Russians have some interesting information on Kerry dating back to Viet Nam and the Paris Peace Accords. Just remember who the power was behind the Viet Cong.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 11:27:16 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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No fan of Putin, but I wish he would issue a statement like: “Look America, if you wanted an intelligent, competent, mature adult President you should have elected Sarah Palin.”


9 posted on 03/03/2014 11:31:40 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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Putin: So Barak, I raise and call.
Let’s see what ya got!


15 posted on 03/03/2014 11:40:28 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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I just disapprove of Kerry, FULL STOP


18 posted on 03/03/2014 11:49:15 AM PST by Viennacon
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Did you know that I served in Vietnam .... ?

20 posted on 03/03/2014 12:07:54 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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“government of winners” that de-facto declared a war on the Russian language and everything Russian.”

Hey, this is what the American government is doing to America!

21 posted on 03/03/2014 12:08:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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All options are on the table?

This man should no where near a nuclear football.


23 posted on 03/03/2014 12:14:40 PM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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Kerry is so gay.


32 posted on 03/03/2014 12:56:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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