Skip to comments.Armed men take airport in Ukraine's Crimea, report says
Posted on 02/27/2014 10:41:38 PM PST by BurningOak
Dozens of armed men in military uniforms seized an airport in the capital of Ukraine's strategic Crimea region early Friday, a report said.
Witnesses told the Interfax news agency that the 50 or so men were wearing the same gear as the ones who seized government buildings in the city, Simferopol, on Thursday and raised the Russian flag.
The report said the men with "Russian Navy ensigns" first surrounded the Simferopol Airport's domestic flights terminal.
The report could not be immediately confirmed.
The events in the Crimea region have heightened tensions with neighboring Russia, which scrambled fighter jets to patrol borders in the first stirrings of a potentially dangerous confrontation reminiscent of Cold War brinksmanship.
Russia also has granted shelter to Ukraine's fugitive president, Viktor Yanukovych, after recent deadly protests in Kiev swept in a new government.
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So basically Putin invaded Ukraine using an army that was already there. The Parliament has been stormed, the airport just taken, and armored troop carriers are rolling around Sevastopol. A massive Russian army is on the border prepared to intervene in case Ukraine tries to retake the province. The puppet Ukranian President is in Russia, might be installed as governor of Crimea and whatever else Putin lops off Ukraine.
The Russians have a cold, calculating, and ruthless dictator at the helm. What do we have?
Invasion happened during the Soviet era
A nancy boy dedicated to punishing Uganda?
The issue in the Crimea is that it’s only Ukrainian by accident. Nikita Kruschev transferred the region’s authority to the Ukrainian local government under the USSR, but the move was made for some very arbitrary reason, Nikita obviously not knowing the fate that awaited his beloved union.
If the majority ethnic Russians in Crimea and a few of the nearby regions would rather be with Russia, it would be best just to let them go rather than sending Ukrainian forces (which are in total disarray after the coup, an elite branch completely disbanded due to violence against the protesters) into a death trap. They would be fighting the Crimean citizens AND perhaps Russian forces from Sevastopol. A nightmare scenario.
Possible upside, Hillary goes in as a peace mediator and fails to duck the ‘sniper fire’ this time. I can imagine if Lurch got shot, his facial expression would not change.
The Russians played this game several times before.
They actually fuel the chaos (under the table), and then they use the argument of “protecting ethnic Russians” as their reason for going in.
You speak of the Soviet era as if it is over...
I am sure Putin would think twice about such a move if Ted Cruz or hell, even McCain was at the helm.
Exactly, except you are wrong about the under the table part. They seem to be rather brazen about it lately.
Then they can buy a bus ticket to Russia. The Soviets colonized these countries for just this purpose.
I don’t think they want to get on the bus back to Russia, I think Putin decided the bus should have a new station.
The White House phone is ringing and going unanswered
Well, I hope you’ll pray for Ukrainian military forces if they are forced to go into Crimea, because I sure as hell would not want to be heading onto that peninsula to fight a much stronger military and a local populace that supports them.
If McCain was at the helm, we’d be fighting wars with half the countries in the world. He’d be bombing the Swaziland presidential palace.
I guess you consider CA and TX part of Mexico then?
I don’t think the Russians are to worried about us or the Euro’s, so them being brazen about this isn’t surprising.
Ultimately, the US military is the under writer of US foreign policy, and the US is the leader of the pact (Western free nations). When the US concedes to Iran, Russia, Assad, (as we have), no one else will step up to the plate. Ironically, that is what many in Europe have been hoping for all along, and we shall see how much they like this trend in years to come.
Dealing with hyenas from the position of weakness doesn’t get you good outcomes, and the world is full of hyenas.
>>>The report said the men with “Russian Navy ensigns” first surrounded the Simferopol Airport’s domestic flights terminal.<<<
Probably a provocation. Chechens were famous to dress in Russian uniform, ski masks and rob their own civilians to break “hearts and minds” effort on part of Russian military.
IMHO, direct military intervention make no sense on Russian side right now.
I just see no benefits for them to do it.
>> What do we have?
A Marxist with a lot more latitude now in his second term.
Russia is not going to allow a neo-Nazi regime to take power in Kiev by force, which is what just happened (read who are the deputy PM’s and ministers in this new unelected government) and bring millions of Russians under their control. The Crimea is 67% or so Russian. It was Russian territory until Khrushchev (a Ukrainian) gave it to Soviet Ukraine in 1954 as a gift.
Only fools thought this would stand. Fools in the EU and in the White House.
That’s a bunch of crap. If anything, unlike Obama he would have shut GITMO down sooner, and his use of force would have been more committed to success, i.e. no half hearted and symbolic gestures that get people killed: Somalia 1993, Libya...
What likely wouldn’t be happening is social experimentation, purging of senior officers, and political pandering within the DoD so that cheap political capital can be gained among feminists and homosexuals. The cuts to defense would likely still have happened, but instead of a Commander in Chief that adds onto the cuts (money to buy votes elsewhere and the DoD isn’t Democrat anyhow - no political damage done) and goes even further, you would have had someone that would have been trying to limit the cuts and how deep they go.
I think Putin will wait until the Crimean referendum on May 25. If the Republic votes for state sovereignty and closer association with Russia, Putin will have the legitimacy to intervene based on the democratic vote of the people of Crimea.
And the putchists in Kiev who were not even elected by their own people, would be in no position to enforce Ukrainian sovereignty there. Russians simply don’t like the Ukrainian nationalists who dominate te new regime.
The only way Kiev can regain control is to violate the very ideals it claimed to be fighting for in seeking freedom from Russia. Crimea is not worth the fight for them with all the problems they have.
Its better to shed it and to look West but extremists in Kiev emboldened by their victory may decide press their luck. They’ll find themselves not up against a weak and ineffectual Yanukovych but against a very enraged Russian Bear.
Forcing ethnic Russians to remain in Ukraine against their will would mean Ukraine having to kiss good-bye to its dreams of becoming part of the West. Kiev should let them go and rejoin Russia if they want.
“Probably a provocation...
IMHO, direct military intervention make no sense on Russian side right now.
I just see no benefits for them to do it.”
Respectfully I have to say you are completely wrong. Russia has 20,000 troops in the Crimea already on its military base there. They have stormed the parliament, rolled armor into the streets, have the full support of the ethnically Russian majority, and have taken the airport.
Crimea is an incredibly important industrial and geopolitical location, it makes perfect sense for the Russians to invade it and benefits Putin tremendously.
It's another Georgian "Bear Trap," being engineered by Putin.
Except this time there is no George Bush to intervene for Ukraine like he did for Georgia...and Putin knows it.
The Ukraine has to stay calm and not respond hastily to these provocations. That is their intent. otherwise, the will definitely lose the entire south of their nation...if not it all.
The mysterious armed men look like Russian special forces. Of course operating with apparent deniability. Russia can claim they’re “volunteers” protecting Russian compatriots from Ukrainian fascists. And who is going to really check their credentials?
Really, where did you get that information, from the RT Russian Times?
“Point of No Return”
The Russian equivalent is OMON - a paramilitary police unit. There is also the Internal Troops of the MVD, that are a military gendarmerie charged with protection of government institutions, public buildings and nuclear installations in Russia.
Happened during the Soviet era you say? Could you tell us who the British were fighting during the Crimean war of the 1850s please?
And the critical US interest for war with Russia, to evict them from Sevastopol,,,, is? Retaining access to the Holy lands?
Are you people insane? And to support McCains Ukrainian Nazi party?
>>Happened during the Soviet era you say? Could you tell us who the British were fighting during the Crimean war of the 1850s please?<<
Crimea was Turkish in 18th century. Russians took over to protect a Christian minorities from the Turks (at least officially). Britain and France intervened on part of Turkey to recapture it.
Svoboda is a neo-nazi party. They even called themselves a socialist-nationalist party. The new deputy-PM is from Svoboda and so are five other minsters according to several international news agencies. If you have different information, please, tell us.
If we are talking ethnic-Russian....it’s barely twenty percent of the far east of Ukraine....which fits into this statistic. Out of twenty-four Oblasts (counties)....there’s only around eight which might fit into this scheme. This comes out to roughly seventeen percent of the total population....which say they are more Russian than Ukrainian.
A split? No doubt. And there’s going to be German, Polish and various European troops standing by to ensure order (forget the Americans....they are paying the peace dividend back and don’t have the strength). Here’s the silly part of the story. These Russians stuck in their Russian Crimea...will be waiting on Russian aid to come and support them. It may be ten years before they admit there’s just no aid and this split was awful stupid for their own economy.
I was surprised to hear Sevastopol was not Russian. I need to do a little research on Russian history.
>>Crimea is an incredibly important industrial and geopolitical location, it makes perfect sense for the Russians to invade it and benefits Putin tremendously.<<
Industrial? It is mostly rocks and sand there. Plenty of snakes, spiders and scorpions too.
>>I was surprised to hear Sevastopol was not Russian. I need to do a little research on Russian history.<<<
If was Greek before medieval and then Turkish. Then Russian from 18th century until donated to Ukraine by Ukrainian commie in charge of USSR in 1954.
Yes, they learned that from Hitler, the hard way.
Apparently, Putin did not get the memo that Ozero would be upset.
The same, only he's focused on taking over America first.
Ozero will probably call it a coupe, and send in the Marine Corpse!
Exactly - the only difference is that their dictator is smart and savvy and bolstering his own country and ours is dense/inept and trying to ruin his claimed country.
How could we project power there? Run a carrier group into the Black Sea (which we can’t due to treaties)?
Turchynyov is from the former Soviet Union, he’s the acting PM, he was in the Tymoshenko administration, he’s not a Neo-Nazi.
It’s pointless to argue. To a Russian, everyone looks like a Neo-Nazi. When you observe that the head of their state is a former KGB colonel, they tell you that the Cold War is over.
“I am sure Putin would think twice about such a move if Ted Cruz or hell, even McCain was at the helm.”
No Vlad has been itching to do this for years now. He got part of Georgia and now he will settle for part of the Ukraine. He was always going to do this.
Russian Nationalists have been demanding it for years....If Putin doesn’t do it, they would just find someone else who will.
Yes, Crimea is pro Russian. The rest of the Ukraine hates Russia’s guts. This is no suprise.
As The Offspring sang, “You gotta keep ‘em separated.”
Oh, try to keep up.
LowTaxesEqualsProsperity specifically mentioned the deputy-PM.It was you who mentioned Turchynov and Tymochenko. No one has said those two are neo-nazis. However, they chose to bring in 6 ministers from Svoboda and none from Klitchko’s party in the government. That’s telling. Unfortunately.
What are the names of these so called “neo-Nazis”?
I’d like to research this, thanks.
“To a Russian, everyone looks like a Neo-Nazi. When you observe that the head of their state is a former KGB colonel, they tell you that the Cold War is over.”
I’ve been reading that Putin has really put the screws to the Russian news media. He’s definitely got the spin working for him.
About Svoboda from the well known left-wing paper International Business Times:
Svoboda: The Rising Spectre Of Neo-Nazism In The Ukraine
But most intersting and revealing, and a wonderful example of closing the barn-door after the horses have bolted, was this statement from the German foreign office today:
On May 6, 1992 the Crimean Parliament amended the Crimean Constitution to say that Crimea was part of Ukraine.
While I appreciate your links, and I will read them, the two I read so far are far left-wing sites; channel 4 UK links to “The Nation”, (barking moon bats) another one the Washington Post, both of these sources describe the Tea Party as racists and “extreme Right-Wing”...
You really think that they are reliable sources as to right wing racism? Here’s an example of what I’m talking about:
The Ukrainian Nationalism at the Heart of Euromaidan
The Grand Old Tea Party
“Why today’s wacko birds are just like yesterday’s wingnuts.”
November 5, 2013 | This article appeared in the November 25, 2013 edition of The Nation.