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IRS Warns: Obamacare Tax Must Be Paid with Tax Return
Americans for Tax Reform ^ | Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:20 PM EST | John Kartch

Posted on 02/25/2014 8:01:51 PM PST by Mariner

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President Obama’s Internal Revenue Service today quietly released a series of Obamacare “Health Care Tax Tips” warning Americans that they must obtain “qualifying” health insurance – as defined by the federal government – or face a “shared responsibility payment” when filing their tax returns in 2015. The term “shared responsibility payment” refers to the Obamacare individual mandate tax, one of at least seven tax hikes in the healthcare law that directly hit families making less than $250,000 per year.

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Gee, I already paid my taxes and got my refund via HR Block (the old Taxcut).

There were no questions asked on the matter of Health Insurance. None.

1 posted on 02/25/2014 8:01:51 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

That’s because it won’t come about until you file for 2014.


2 posted on 02/25/2014 8:04:07 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Mariner

As others kindly pointed out to me on an earlier thread, this will be for the 2014 taxes that you file in 2015.


3 posted on 02/25/2014 8:04:09 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Mariner

The peak Taxpayer “Rage Day” is April 15, Every Year.

For the 53 % who still pay personal Federal Income taxes, I say “Put y’alls Tax Rage to work and get rid of Obama’s TROJAN HORSE John “Doormat” Boehner” on Imperial Democrat Tax Day, April 15, 2014.

As for timing, the new fire-in-the-belly, Speaker of the House can then, with great and detailed TV Fanfare, draw up the necessary Articles of Impeachment on Soetoro-Obama to be officially filed on the Grandest of all Patriotic Days, July 4, 2014.

Then the 2014 Campaign will be going on along with the following:
* Obama’s Impeachment trial;
* Pro-Obama Impeachment street protests;
* Pro-Military street protests;
* Pro-Privatization of “Entitlements” street protests;
* Anti-Coverup of Benghazi Murders street protests;
* Anti-Coverup of Fast and Furious murder street protests;
* Anti-IRS street protests;
* Anti-NSA street protests;
* Anti-Holder’s DOJ street protests;
* Anti-Bypass Congress street protests;
* Anti-Judge Robert’s street protests;
* Anti-Obamacare street protests;
* Anti-Trojan Horse RINOs street protests; and
* Anti-Democrat Party street protests.

The strategy is simple:
1.) CREATE AS MANY POINTS OF ATTACK AS POSSIBLE AND
2.) ATTACK WITH NO HESITATION WHENEVER ONE OR MORE POINTS OF ATTACK FINDS A WEAKNESS.

Warning: Success is guaranteed BECAUSE this strategy will be strongly opposed by RINO Rove, RINO Peter King of NY, RINO “Romneycare” Romney, and of course, Loser Emeritus John “Wacko Birds” McCain.

LET THE “AMERICAN STREET” SUMMER OF DISCONTENT BEGIN !


4 posted on 02/25/2014 8:09:10 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Mariner; Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...

Well, FReepers, here is yet ANOTHER reason to replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS!

Find out how to help us do that at http://www.fairtax.org.

We will never be a FRee people so long as we have an income tax and the IRS!


5 posted on 02/25/2014 8:09:14 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Graewoulf

I’M IN!


6 posted on 02/25/2014 8:10:31 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Mariner

IRS has no power but to with hold refund. Screw them.


7 posted on 02/25/2014 8:12:55 PM PST by SADMILLIE
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To: All

PS You all will note that the Flat Income Tax so revered by the Americans for Tax Reform WILL NOT ABOLISH THE IRS!

If you EVER want to live in a FRee Republic again, the income tax and the IRS MUST BE ABOLISHED!


8 posted on 02/25/2014 8:13:43 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

RINOS ARE THE OBAMA TROJAN HORSE TROOPS PARTY

The “RINOs” are really just Trojan Horse troops sent in by Obama.
They do as they are told to avoid Left Stream Media jeers.
John “The Doormat” Boehner has his paranoid fears:
Obama and the Left Stream Media Journalists will drive him to tears.

And then there is “Capitulation” Cantor,
With a soft Virginia Drawl,
Who wears patches on his knees
From his frequent Cave-In crawls.

Don’t forget “No Resistance” Ryan,
Appeasement is his long suit.
No wonder “Romneycare” Romney
Was such a big Ryan fan.

Obama’s Trojan Horse is now filled with House RINOs,
All promising that in 2014 they will ALL be silent.
The Republican’s RINO Rove, and “Wacko Birds” McCain,
Act as the Loyal Rear Guard for the Obama Trojan Horse.

What have we here? So say the skeptical.
Forward, ever FORWARD rolls the Obama Trojan Horse,
Crushing the Constitution, all Checks and Balances, and all who complain,
While the RINOs in Obama’s Trojan Horse stay always silent. and do not complain.

Did Obama capture the House RINOs inside his Trojan Horse?
Or did the Loyal RINOs stampede on to get there first?
The “What” and the “Why” are just idle chatter,
The RINO Five Years of failure, is what the to voter matters.

With only two plus years left to Impeach Obama,
Can the Trojan Horse House RINOs be trusted,
What the Constitution requires elected Stewards to do?
Or will re-elected House RINOs just continue the destructive Obama trauma?


9 posted on 02/25/2014 8:16:43 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Mariner

Next year.


10 posted on 02/25/2014 8:17:43 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: Mariner

If its a tax then one can be sent to jail for not paying, right???????


11 posted on 02/25/2014 8:20:35 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Graewoulf

Tax day needs to be moved to the first tuesday in November. That might change election outcomes in our favor.


12 posted on 02/25/2014 8:21:27 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: diverteach

BTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


13 posted on 02/25/2014 8:22:40 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Mariner

If dear leader can illegally pick and choose what he decides to enforce, then he has set the example. I chose not to comply.


14 posted on 02/25/2014 8:23:18 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: Mariner

Was that info on your W2?


15 posted on 02/25/2014 8:25:43 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor ')
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To: RginTN

The way the law is currently written, all they can do is withhold the money from your refund. If you aren’t due a refund, they can’t do anything.


16 posted on 02/25/2014 8:26:41 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Mariner

FUBO!!


17 posted on 02/25/2014 8:26:56 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Taxman

“..We will never be a FRee people so long as we have an income tax and the IRS!”

The IRS is controlling our health, choosing our politicians by hurting the Tea Party, religious groups and other conservative groups, stealing our money, etc..

Some of the IRS bullies should be in jail. The system is broken. Let’s try to fix it.


18 posted on 02/25/2014 8:27:08 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Mariner

They can get lost!No ones buying their garbage and Roberts can shove it with Obama!


19 posted on 02/25/2014 8:27:45 PM PST by plainshame
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To: Mariner

According to the ACA the IRS can only collect from owed tax refunds. But I suppose that can be changed arbitrarily by the kenyan or a minion.


20 posted on 02/25/2014 8:27:51 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: RginTN
If its a tax then one can be sent to jail for not paying, right???????

One could be. I truly do not know all the particulars of this law but believe one could be. From the first reports of those signing up, in total number(s) ... would say one will have plenty of company.

21 posted on 02/25/2014 8:29:14 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Mariner

Uh gee

FOAD


22 posted on 02/25/2014 8:35:15 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Somewhere along the line, we went from a country to a gulag.


23 posted on 02/25/2014 8:54:51 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Mariner

I haven’t read the ObamaCare statute, but I doubt that it says the IRS shall collect a “shared responsibility payment”. If it isn’t authorized by the law, it isn’t authorized. Can’t they at least follow the wording of the enabling statute as “legitimized” by the Supreme Court?


24 posted on 02/25/2014 9:08:41 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: ConjunctionJunction

“The way the law is currently written”

The way it’s currently writtes is very different than how it’s being implimented. A mere stroke of the pen and the IRS will take your home, bank account or attach your wages. This is a tax. The Supreme court sez so. At some point time the IRS will treat this like all other taxes.

CC


25 posted on 02/25/2014 9:17:18 PM PST by Captain Compassion
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To: Mariner

It’s an interesting threat because there was no “or else”.


26 posted on 02/25/2014 9:17:25 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Mariner
I understand they can only collect if you get a refund. But I guess the penalty will raise your taxes due amount. So for those who owe anyway, they will have to pay the extra amount.

But for those who are not getting a refund and no taxes due (but have this penalty added against them), will it continue to stay on the IRS books with interest added? That could get expensive.

Somewhat jumbled in my mind. I hope someone can lay it out really clear to understand all the different tax scenerios.

27 posted on 02/25/2014 9:26:36 PM PST by Cedar
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To: SADMILLIE

So they will get you for lying on your tax return then?

They can punish you for that.


28 posted on 02/25/2014 9:55:15 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Mariner

We need a tax revolt. Everybody should give their employer (those fortunate enough to still have a job) a revised W4 showing no withholding for federal income tax. Unfortunately, this has no chance of having an impact unless millions of people do it. The first step (since impeachment seems unlikely) in solving our problems is to starve the beast.


29 posted on 02/25/2014 10:08:48 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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To: Captain Compassion
This is a tax. The Supreme court sez so.

But it's not a legitimate tax the Constitution says so...

Section. 7.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

The ACA originated in the Senate.

30 posted on 02/25/2014 10:28:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: SADMILLIE

I guess they could AUDIT you - you know, one of those RANDOM audits.


31 posted on 02/25/2014 10:31:16 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon (center)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

And since only the “Takers” get refunds (due to tax credits etc) , only Obama voters will be hit by this.


32 posted on 02/25/2014 10:32:41 PM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: Taxman

So without a balanced budget amendment and a 2/3rds majority vote in both house and senate to raise the fair tax rate...the fair tax is dead....plus...progressives will not view it as a progressive tax but a flat 31% tax that affects the poor as much as it affects the rich. How close seriously do you think we are to getting this passed? If you abolish the IRS think of the job loss for all the tax folks not in govt...I like the idea of it but it really seems like way too many hurdles to clear....better odds on burning the IRS building to the ground...IMHO


33 posted on 02/25/2014 10:33:48 PM PST by superfries
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To: Mariner
Now that we know the IRS has compiled hit lists based on party affiliation, I wonder WHO will be punished for not complying? Wait.. No, I don't wonder: REGISTERED REPUBLICANS ONLY!
34 posted on 02/25/2014 10:36:10 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Mariner

f Obama and f the Democrat party. They have become domestic enemies.


35 posted on 02/25/2014 10:50:33 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Mariner

All you need to vote against demoKKKrats in 2014 is the ability to see one year into the future...


36 posted on 02/25/2014 11:47:34 PM PST by varmintman
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To: TigersEye
The ACA originated in the Senate.

You may not have noticed, but no one in office cares about the constitution or any other law.

37 posted on 02/25/2014 11:47:56 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for RINOs is the same as voting for any other Tyrant)
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To: itsahoot

You haven’t seen my homepage have you? lol


38 posted on 02/25/2014 11:50:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: superfries

Libs will scream and holler no matter what. When we get all 3 branches (!) we should...

repeal 0bamacare
eliminate the IRS
implement an nrst (super-friendly to capital)
eliminate a dozen or so federal agencies

and walk to the capital building with gavel in speaker’s hand... et al.

And jam it down their farking throats

The nrst’s chances are as good as any major reform’s chances - maybe better. Lots of reasons including political environment and economic need. Such circumstances have not been evident to such an extent EVER.


39 posted on 02/26/2014 2:45:13 AM PST by Principled
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To: Mariner

I filed about a week ago and was asked if I had a plan through my employer.


40 posted on 02/26/2014 3:08:41 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Mariner

“Share Responsibility Payment”

How Orwellian of the Commies.


41 posted on 02/26/2014 3:12:48 AM PST by IamConservative (╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

The way the law was written means nothing. Obama is the law.


42 posted on 02/26/2014 4:30:21 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Graewoulf

I believe you are correct, sir.


43 posted on 02/26/2014 4:35:14 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: SADMILLIE

I’m furiously trying to educate young people within my reach to up their W-4 exemption to 1 instead of zero. Most of the young, barely making it, look forward to that tax refund, as did I in my youth. the IRS will deduct that penalty from a refund...but only if it is there to take.


44 posted on 02/26/2014 4:38:09 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Graewoulf

Sign me up brother. To hell with the special sessions of Issa and all the sub committees of Boehner. Time to take to the streets and let them here us.

Out with Boehner and his followers. In with some stompers not chest beaters and TV camera chasers.


45 posted on 02/26/2014 5:03:28 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Jim Robinson

I will second that. Got that FUBO stitched on my favorite cap I wear. Was a my favorite lady doctors office window checking in. She asked what that meant. The waiting room was crowded. I handed her the cap and told her to sound it out.

She started....F....U.......B....>>>..O. F..U..Barack..Obama real loud. All heads turned and she turned red and ran from the window, I laughed and took my seat.

Smart doctor.


46 posted on 02/26/2014 5:08:15 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: itsahoot
Hardly any of the American public cares either. But what the plot line is on "Game of Thrones" or who has come out as homosexual is much more important.

Houston, we have a problem.

47 posted on 02/26/2014 5:30:39 AM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: clintonh8r
We need a tax revolt.

No, we need more than that:

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

48 posted on 02/26/2014 5:35:05 AM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: Mariner

I went Galt and have no income.

The looters can all go to h*ll.


49 posted on 02/26/2014 6:08:59 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Everyday now another branch or agency of OUR government threatens us.


50 posted on 02/26/2014 6:12:21 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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