Posted on 02/21/2014 8:05:27 AM PST by Innovative
I am saying to you that the ballot box is too little, too late. The party needs a mile-deep, long-term strategy. That’s what the atheist/communist/Democrats had, starting with Wilson, and they worked it for 100 years until they finally got everything under their control. Now conservatives are on their backs. A vote is not going to fix this. But it could make it worse.
I agree with everything you wrote. But it doesn’t cancel out what I wrote — that we are already captives of the enemy, politically speaking (and only politically speaking, padre). So conservative strategy must be revised in order to overthrow the chokehold of the present perfumed tyranny. Incrementally, if necessary, such as electing a lefty liberal cultist like Romney instead of bending over for the incumbent.
Well said.
Excuse me, but what you said was:
Every election we go through this losing "strategy" of died-in-the-wool "conservatives" who would rather lose an election, even a close one like the last one, than compromise one iota of their "principles" -- including being determined! to lose, if they have to, as long as they retain their self-righteousness.
I am saying to you that yours is a FALSE PREMISE, and a deliberately INSULTING one at that, you and your "as long as they retain their self-righteousness," as if pride was the motivator. If pride/self righteousness is what you think motivates me, then SCREW YOU, Albion, you are both blind AND condescending.
No one asked me to compromise my principles, not even one iota, with Romney.
Instead, they asked me to abandon my principles.
Pretending that compromising principles and abandoning them are the same thing most certainly will make it worse.
Finny: “Romney was 100 percent functionally an amoral big government statist leftist Democrat on abortion, global warming, government-controlled health care, the homosexual agenda, gun control, and activist liberal judges.”
Other than the fact that your statement is incorrect, you sound proud that instead of voting for Romney you helped elect “the fine conservative, much better than Romney” Barack Hussein Obama. That is something definitely to be proud of, as a conservative. (/sarc)
Do you think maybe he's developed early on-set Alzheimer’s or something?
Other than the fact that your statement is incorrect...
Prove it.
Prove where Romney FUNCTIONALLY (not campaign promises, but FUNCTIONALLY) took any position BUT a statist leftist Democrat on those SIX issues. And if you pretend that his being for "state's rights" with regard to government-run health care, then everyone here with vision will see that you are self-deceiving at best. It is the PRINCIPLE -- government has zero business in health insurance and care, state or federal, and Romney BELIEVES THE OPPOSITE as his actions demonstrate.
So you go ahead and PROVE that Romney wasn't a functional leftist Democrat on all six of those issues. Go ahead -- not his promises or claims, but his ACTIONS and STATED BELIEFS. Prove it. Post the evidence -- again, not his campaign promises and claims, but his actions and words on what he thinks of gays and adoption, or minor girls and abortion.
I was all for Romney in the early days, believing what others said about him. THEN I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE.
Obviously, you have neglected yours.
Other than the fact that your statement is incorrect, you sound proud that instead of voting for Romney you helped elect “the fine conservative, much better than Romney” Barack Hussein Obama. That is something definitely to be proud of, as a conservative. (/sarc)
And you must be proud of the GOP vet pay cut and the continued non action by the GOP regarding the ongoing IRS assaults on conservatives.
If you are going to be a party stalwart you need to own all of it. The beltway GOP through there actions have proven they care nothing for anybody on main street. Point your fire at the them instead of conservatives who shine the light on their mendacity.
May I assume that YOU voted for Romney then? If you did, I absolutely understand that vote and sympathize, if only because I voted based on the same kind of "feeling" for many decades -- about 35 years, to be precise.
But are you PROUD of voting for making the Republican party move even harder to the left?
Because that is what your vote for Romney was for, whether you intended it to be or not. You only get to vote FOR. Voting "against" is purely semantic. You felt you were voting "against" Obama. Feelings are removed from the reality of the math -- in fact, your vote for Romney was a vote FOR moving the Republican party decidedly to the left. Zero sarcasm here.
Romney lost because he was a lousy strategist. He thought he could turn to the left, pick up some moderate to liberal voters and still keep the social conservatives.
He failed in both areas. He lost the social conservatives.
The moderate to liberals went for the hard core liberal Barack Obama rather than the on-again/off-again liberal, Mitt Romney.
His loss is entirely on his own failed strategy.
“And you must be proud of the GOP vet pay cut and the continued non action by the GOP regarding the ongoing IRS assaults on conservatives.”
Why are you blaming the GOP for that? It would NOT have happened if we had a Republican majority in Congress and a Republican president.
If anyone should “own” it, it’s the “conservatives” who enabled the Dems to control the Senate and elect Obama.
People have to be responsible for the consequences of their actions. All the above is the result of conservatives staying home or voting third party, instead of being focused on defeating Democrats.
YOUR actions have been to support the Republican party moving hard left. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT and start voting smarter. That begins with finally figuring out (it only took me over three decades! ;^) that no matter how much you wish it wasn't so, the ONLY THING THAT COUNTS is what you vote FOR.
As long as you operate on the fantasy that you get to vote "against," you are hunting unicorns. They are eternally elusive -- and success for Republicans/conservatives is equally elusive, and for the same reason, when they adopt YOUR strategy.
Courtesy ping to my post 72 — sorry I forgot to include you the first time. :^)
Er ... make that post #73.
While some “conservatives” are busy forming circular firing squads, Obama is continuing to destroy the country. Maybe that is where the focus should be.
Hope you are happy that you are enabling Obama.
Obama plan: Cut tax breaks for richest retirement savers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3125572/posts
“President Barack Obama plans to ask Congress in early March, as part of his fiscal 2015 budget, to reduce some of the tax advantages for employer-sponsored retirement plans for higher-income earners, according to published reports.
Plus, the president wants to limit the value of all tax deductions, defined contribution exclusions and IRA deductions to 28% of income — and include an overall cap on all retirement accounts, including pensions, that could bring in $1 billion a year in new tax revenue, according to a Pensions & Investments report. “
Why are you blaming the GOP for that? It would NOT have happened if we had a Republican majority in Congress and a Republican president.
If anyone should “own” it, it’s the “conservatives” who enabled the Dems to control the Senate and elect Obama.
People have to be responsible for the consequences of their actions. All the above is the result of conservatives staying home or voting third party, instead of being focused on defeating Democrats.
You are conflating the past and the present.
Romney was a lousy candidate who ran a lousy campaign. Stop blaming conservatives for his bumbling loss. He has nobody to blame but himself.
I am blaming the GOP for refusing to subtantively engage the obama admin regard the IRS scandal. That present issue has nothing to do with past elections.
The IRS is continuing to assault conservatives. It’s a well known fact. John Boehner does NOTHING to stop it. In fact, he just funded the agency abusing citizens. There has been ZERO substantive engagement from the GOP regarding the ongoing IRS assaults.
FRiend, you need to live in the present and not the past. Hold your leaders accountable or they will continue to slide left.
Further, I have been speaking about what conservatives must do now that the conservative side is down for the count, while many of you keep bringing up the past. The past is over; since our nation has never, ever been in our current situation before, examples from the past cannot foretell all that must be done now.
Conservatives need to guard against reactionary emoting instead of looking at the reality on the ground and being ready to respond to the horror that lies before us as need be (and one hopes by divine direction), not according to some preconceived poly-sci formula. That was (and is) Rove's approach; and I agree, it did not work and will not work. He needs to SDSU.
“The political issue that is far more important than any other is the threat of big government tyranny overturning our Constitution and our free way of life. All other political issues are chump change in comparison. “
And how is this served by electing more Democrats — which is the net effect of running “conservative” candidates who are unelectable in the general election.
“So you are all for the Dems to take over and destroy the country.”
Lord help us. You’re one of them. If they have an R after their name then they are a good guy, evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
There is only ONE party in Washington DC! Wake up!!
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