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To: Finny; Albion Wilde

Finny: “Romney was 100 percent functionally an amoral big government statist leftist Democrat on abortion, global warming, government-controlled health care, the homosexual agenda, gun control, and activist liberal judges.”

Other than the fact that your statement is incorrect, you sound proud that instead of voting for Romney you helped elect “the fine conservative, much better than Romney” Barack Hussein Obama. That is something definitely to be proud of, as a conservative. (/sarc)


66 posted on 02/21/2014 10:35:50 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
Finny: “Romney was 100 percent functionally an amoral big government statist leftist Democrat on abortion, global warming, government-controlled health care, the homosexual agenda, gun control, and activist liberal judges.”

Other than the fact that your statement is incorrect...

Prove it.

Prove where Romney FUNCTIONALLY (not campaign promises, but FUNCTIONALLY) took any position BUT a statist leftist Democrat on those SIX issues. And if you pretend that his being for "state's rights" with regard to government-run health care, then everyone here with vision will see that you are self-deceiving at best. It is the PRINCIPLE -- government has zero business in health insurance and care, state or federal, and Romney BELIEVES THE OPPOSITE as his actions demonstrate.

So you go ahead and PROVE that Romney wasn't a functional leftist Democrat on all six of those issues. Go ahead -- not his promises or claims, but his ACTIONS and STATED BELIEFS. Prove it. Post the evidence -- again, not his campaign promises and claims, but his actions and words on what he thinks of gays and adoption, or minor girls and abortion.

I was all for Romney in the early days, believing what others said about him. THEN I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE.

Obviously, you have neglected yours.

68 posted on 02/21/2014 10:45:19 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Innovative

Other than the fact that your statement is incorrect, you sound proud that instead of voting for Romney you helped elect “the fine conservative, much better than Romney” Barack Hussein Obama. That is something definitely to be proud of, as a conservative. (/sarc)


And you must be proud of the GOP vet pay cut and the continued non action by the GOP regarding the ongoing IRS assaults on conservatives.

If you are going to be a party stalwart you need to own all of it. The beltway GOP through there actions have proven they care nothing for anybody on main street. Point your fire at the them instead of conservatives who shine the light on their mendacity.


69 posted on 02/21/2014 10:51:01 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Innovative
... you sound proud that instead of voting for Romney you helped elect “the fine conservative, much better than Romney” Barack Hussein Obama. That is something definitely to be proud of, as a conservative. (/sarc)

May I assume that YOU voted for Romney then? If you did, I absolutely understand that vote and sympathize, if only because I voted based on the same kind of "feeling" for many decades -- about 35 years, to be precise.

But are you PROUD of voting for making the Republican party move even harder to the left?

Because that is what your vote for Romney was for, whether you intended it to be or not. You only get to vote FOR. Voting "against" is purely semantic. You felt you were voting "against" Obama. Feelings are removed from the reality of the math -- in fact, your vote for Romney was a vote FOR moving the Republican party decidedly to the left. Zero sarcasm here.

70 posted on 02/21/2014 10:54:03 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Innovative

Romney lost because he was a lousy strategist. He thought he could turn to the left, pick up some moderate to liberal voters and still keep the social conservatives.

He failed in both areas. He lost the social conservatives.

The moderate to liberals went for the hard core liberal Barack Obama rather than the on-again/off-again liberal, Mitt Romney.

His loss is entirely on his own failed strategy.


71 posted on 02/21/2014 10:54:24 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Innovative; Finny; Albion Wilde; EternalVigilance; RitaOK; Dr. Sivana; SoConPubbie; xzins; ...
Innovative:

Finny is absolutely correct on Romney. Romney was and is an absolute dishonest POS who has no ideological connection whatsoever with the Republican Party much less with the Conservative Movement. Romney, like his father before him, is and was a social revolutionary. He was and is committed to abortion, "gay""marriage," gun grabbing, global warming baloney, the entire homosexual agenda, activist leftist judges, government-controlled health care, including forcing churches and other employers not in moral agreement with his revolutionary health care insurance and abortion agendas to comply with HIS decisions or else, etc., etc., etc.

Romney was a pathetic excuse for a governor even for Taxachusetts, blaming his entire failed record on not controlling the Taxachusetts legislature. There were not enough half-brained Muffies and Skippers to run for the legislature much less enough brainless social revolutionary money-obsessed yuppies willing to vote for the half-brained Muffies and Skippers. Of course, Romney and his social revolutionary agenda might seem attractive to trust fund babies and Junior Leaguers but not so much to the voters of South Boston or Lowell or Lawrence or Worcester or Springfield.

I will tell you flat out that I refused for the first time since I began voting in 1968 to vote for the "Republican" candidate for POTUS, POS Romney. I voted third party for Tom Hoefling and I will vote third party from here on out unless and until the GOP-E jumps into a vat of sulfuric acid, stuffs its vast campaign budgets where the sun shineth not, and turns the GOP back over to its rank and file. My US Senate and US House votes will be cast according to the same standard. No supine love slaves of such trash as McConnell or Boehner.

The notion that refusing to vote for the elitist trash being nominated for POTUS or lesser offices by the GOP-E, means being responsible for the election of trash like Obozo is ridiculous. The 1992, 1996, 2008 and 2012 POTUS elections were lost when the lobbyists and crony capitalists and Wall Street bankers and the special interests nominated Bush (Read My Lips, No New Taxes) the Elder, Robert (Tax Collector for the Welfare State) Dole, John (The Actual Whacko Bird) McCain and Mitt (Son of George) Romney. In each case the greedycrats of Wall Street decided to surrender the entire agenda of Ronald Reagan in order to concentrate on aiding Muffie's trust fund. Blame them and thereby place the blame where it belongs.

Be sure and get back to the base if and when you ever decide to get the hell out of the way and nominate a candidate who merits the votes of the base the old-fashioned way---by EARNING THEM. Y'all had better get the act together on that soon or you will have a cranky old Hillary in the White House. It won't be enough for you to nominate New Jersey Fats or Paul Ryan or some clone of McConnell or Boehner and then weep crocodile tears over how important it is to have "party unity" lest the wicked witch of New York (by way of Illinois and then Arkansas) occupy the White House.

104 posted on 02/21/2014 4:00:19 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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