European genes altered by Black Death

Mother Nature Network ^ | February 4, 2014 | Stephanie Pappas

[gleeaikin]

GGG Ping, SC?

[Cowboy Bob]

Gypsy is a derogatory term? Since when?

Someone better tell the Gypsy Kings.

[logi_cal869]

Pertinent:

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf119/sf119p05.htm

http://www.diadelausabilidad.com/ccr5-delta-32-genetic-test-for-hiv-immunity.html

http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-472-miscellaneous-articles-and-updates/

[DoughtyOne]

There have been studies along these lines out there for a long time, decades at least.

My mother’s father’s side of the family had a problem with blood beginning to clot too easily in their early to mid 40s.

This happened to me several times in my early 40s. It was thought to possibly have been passed on from the survivors of the Black Plague.

If this is true, is it really as a result of an altered gene, or is it the result of the gene being present that somehow caused the survival of individuals who would naturally pass it on?

[urbanpovertylawcenter]

“Humans were modified, basically, by infections.”

Human, not sick + infection = modified Human, sick.

Would that Obama said it first for a Nobel Prize in Medicine?

Geico commercial: Did you know 15 minutes could save you..... everybody knows that.

Yea, but did you know what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger?

[goodwithagun]

If you like your altered genes, you can keep your altered genes.

[SunTzuWu]

Bookmark.

[catnipman]

“Humans were modified, basically, by infections. ... Other diseases could have altered the same genes.”

Unscientific nonsense. Bacterial infections don’t alter human genes. Environmental forces can eliminate portions of the population carrying certain genes, while leaving other portions of the population with other genes to continue their line, thereby SHIFTING the proportion of EXISTING genes in future populations. That’s it. Alteration of percentages of the population with a particular EXISTING gene.

Perhaps some virus could weasel its way into a gamete, but short of that, nada.

[Oratam]

What happened in India a thousand years ago that got these folks on the move to begin with?

[huldah1776]

during famine, genes turn on to preserve life. Kids are born with their genes on (LOL). When do they turn off? do you know?

[JSteff]

which killed at least 75 million people,

Bet they had some much better harvest's for a few years....?

[Gumdrop]

Leiden Factor V?

[JSteff]

rare opportunity to study two genetically distinct populations in one geographical region.

You really expect we will believe that no one "did" anyone in another population group geographically located near by?
They are humans so that is very unlikely. Humans as a rule all have bear goggles.

[SunkenCiv]

The study reveals that Roma people (sometimes known as gypsies, although this is considered a derogatory term) and white Europeans share alterations to their genetic code that occurred after the Roma settled in Europe from northwest India 1,000 years ago. The plague of the 1300s, which killed at least 75 million people, is a likely candidate...

Thanks gleeaikin. We had, er, I think we had, a topic about the possibility that The Plague also hit during Roman times, which doesn't seem at all unlikely since there was a staggering amount of seagoing trade with India.

[SunkenCiv]

Black Death may have scuppered Roman Empire

[gitmo]

That's an awful lot of supposition to explain a present day observation about genetic similarities between two populations.

[SunkenCiv]

bear goggles? Is this about bestiality?!? ;’)

[SunkenCiv]

Nice!

[SunkenCiv]

http://www.lib.umt.edu/lang/indirn3h.htm#Romany

> Romany (Indo-Hittite), also called Romani and Gypsy, is the language of the people known as Gypsies. The language belongs to the Dardic sub-branch of the Indic sub-branch of the Indo-Iranian sub-branch of the Indo-European branch of the Indo-Hittite family of languages. There are many dialects. It is written with the Latin alphabet. By studying their language, anthropologists have been able to determine the probable homeland of this wandering people.