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Geoengineering plan could have 'unintended' side effect (DoH! Alert!! Tropics rainfall down 30%)
BBC News ^ | 1/8/14 | Matt McGrath

Posted on 01/08/2014 10:03:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Attempts to reverse the impacts of global warming by injecting reflective particles into the stratosphere could make matters worse, say researchers.

A new study suggests the idea, seen as a last-ditch way to deal with runaway climate change, could cut rainfall in the tropics by 30%.

This would have devastating impacts on rainforests in South America and Asia

The research has been published in the journal Environmental Research Letters.

The concept of curbing rising temperatures by blocking sunlight has been discussed by scientists for many years now.

Some of the ideas have been dismissed as crazy notions, but others have been taken more seriously.

One of the most credible plans involves using reflective particles called aerosols to reflect solar radiation away from the Earth.

This happens naturally when volcanoes erupt, sending plumes of ash into the stratosphere, as with Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines in 1991.

Now a team at the University of Reading have modelled the impacts of a large-scale injection of sulphur dioxide particles at high altitudes around the equator.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aerosols; chemtrails; climatechange; geoengineering; sideeffect; unintended; volcanos
It's not nice to mess with Mother Nature.

Lately, the spraying over the Bay Area has increased,, so did our cold snap and lack of any moisture falling locally.

Sometimes, man can be a real pain in the keester and his own worst enemy.

Just becuz volcanos still blow up doesn't mean it's not man's fault too. any old lament will do for climate changers.

Stupid is as stupid does..

Stop spraying us. Please!

1 posted on 01/08/2014 10:03:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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Where did all the water in the Amoozon go, you ask..

Look to the ice caps.


2 posted on 01/08/2014 10:04:01 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Injecting aerosols into the stratosphere mimics the cooling effects of volcanoes


3 posted on 01/08/2014 10:05:26 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Researchers around the world continue to explore different climate interventions that might be used in extreme circumstances. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), in their recent report, acknowledged that every option should be considered.

But according to Prof Piers Forster, from the University of Leeds, the technologies are still in their infancy.

“At present, these injection technologies do not exist, even on paper, and this precludes an evaluation of realistic effectiveness or side effects.

“If we want to suppress global warming the only game in town at present is reducing greenhouse gas emissions.”


4 posted on 01/08/2014 10:07:33 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

“A new study suggests the idea, seen as a last-ditch way to deal with runaway climate change, could cut rainfall in the tropics by 30%.”

Runaway climate change?

Really?

Come on BBC. What’s next for the BBC - a story on Godzilla’s continuing rampages through Japan?


5 posted on 01/08/2014 10:09:37 AM PST by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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There is no doubt that we are under attack by faux scientists and researchers whose only mission is make sure everyone is as miserable as the rest of the herd.

Add the UNIPCC on a mission,, well.. this could get real ugly.. real quick.


7 posted on 01/08/2014 10:09:55 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
Attempts to reverse the impacts of global warming by injecting reflective particles into the stratosphere could make matters worse, say researchers.

NO! Really?!?

8 posted on 01/08/2014 10:10:17 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: NormsRevenge

JUDY COLLINS
“Both Sides Now”
(Clannad & Paul Young)

Bows and flows of angel hair and ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere, I’ve looked at clouds that way
But now they only block the sun they rain and snow on everyone
So many things I would have done, but clouds got in my way

I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now
From up and down and still somehow
It’s cloud’s illusions I recall
I really don’t know clouds at all

Moons and Junes and Ferris wheels the dizzy dancing way you feel
As every fairy tale comes real, I’ve looked at love that way
But now it’s just another show, you leave ‘em laughing when you go
And if you care don’t let them know, don’t give yourself away

I’ve looked at love from both sides now
From give and take and still somehow
It’s love’s illusions I recall
I really don’t know love at all

Tears and fears and feeling proud, to say, “I love you” right out loud
Dreams and schemes and circus crowds, I’ve looked at life that way
But now old friends are acting strange they shake their heads, they say
I’ve changed
But something’s lost but something’s gained in living every day

I’ve looked at life from both sides now
From win and lose and still somehow
It’s life’s illusions I recall
I really don’t know life at all


9 posted on 01/08/2014 10:11:22 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: GraceG

This is nothing new and has been going on for years.

We live in a delicate balance as is here, having these goons out intentionally and otherwise messing things up worse is no solution, it may be a final solution. That must have the Zero Population GRowth folks hopeful. ;-]


10 posted on 01/08/2014 10:12:07 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

What the envirowhackos are doing now is a result of their fraud being found out. Just like when you call out an addict, instead of continuing to deny, they move forward with their plans at full throttle, come what may. As such, instead of actually realizing any sort of “global warming” correction, they’re actually going to accelerate global cooling.


11 posted on 01/08/2014 10:14:01 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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CBN ^ | January 08, 2014 | Dale Hurd

Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:51:03 AM by xzins

Global Cooling: Is an Ice Age Coming?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3109649/posts


12 posted on 01/08/2014 10:15:37 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
“If we want to suppress global warming the only game in town at present is reducing greenhouse gas emissions.”

It would appear that their prayers for more snow and ice have been more effective.

13 posted on 01/08/2014 10:18:10 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: NormsRevenge

14 posted on 01/08/2014 10:20:45 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wasn’t there a Simpson’s episode where Mr. Burns constructed a huge device to block out the sun?


15 posted on 01/08/2014 10:21:23 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Red Badger

Joanie Mitchell


16 posted on 01/08/2014 10:22:36 AM PST by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: NormsRevenge

pollution used to block the sun until the clean air act stopped that


17 posted on 01/08/2014 10:23:28 AM PST by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: NormsRevenge
reverse the impacts of global warming by injecting reflective particles into the stratosphere

I know a quick, certain, method of injecting large amounts of fine particulate matter into the upper atmosphere. The hard part is deciding where to use the process, because it does cause a temporary spike in local temperatures.


18 posted on 01/08/2014 10:33:45 AM PST by Pilsner
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To: NormsRevenge

It was completely overcast for most of the day on Monday but late in the afternoon the clouds cleared up and guess what? There were planes or drones spraying a diagonal pattern all across the sky. Why spray on cloudy days? Don’t the cloud reflect sunlight?


19 posted on 01/08/2014 10:47:05 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: NormsRevenge

I am frightened that we will try geoengineering. That will work, and if our goal is to offset a fixed temperature increase due to global warming, we will lower the global temperature relative to the climate without geoengineering. The problem is that we could easily send the earth into an ice age (which is much more stable than our current warm period) if global warming is not real or is overestimated. I pray that the left isn’t that stupid; but then I look at the rest of the left’s choices, and I worry even more.


20 posted on 01/08/2014 10:49:11 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: NormsRevenge

If women control the world’s thermostat, we’re going to become dried up human jerky.


21 posted on 01/08/2014 10:51:57 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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They should just turn Karl Rove’s weather machine back on. At least in those days it wasn’t one hundred and eleventy billion degrees below zero.


22 posted on 01/08/2014 10:53:40 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: NormsRevenge

Reseaerchers around the world continue to look for ways to justify their existence, bilk taxpayers, and expand government power.


23 posted on 01/08/2014 11:56:22 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: NormsRevenge

As the leading edges of the cold Arctic Vortex was entering the Texas area near where my shop is located, the Boys in Black had painted a giant X in the skies over head. Them chem trail boys are up to something, or at least they have a strange sense of humor LOL


24 posted on 01/08/2014 11:59:41 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Pilsner

Start with Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Damascus and Tehran.


25 posted on 01/08/2014 12:29:06 PM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: NormsRevenge

In the late 70’s all coal fired generating plants were required by law to retrofit scrubbers on to their stacks to cut down on the emissions of SO2. Not long after we started to see a slight rise in global temps know as AGW. Now to correct a problem of their own making these dimwits want to spray SO2 back into the atmosphere. Why not just remove the scrubbers and refire the mothballed coal generating plants. Bingo you have solved three problems. You’ve stopped AGW, increased the supply of cheap electricity and put hundreds if not thousands of people back to work mining and shipping coal. Beats an unemployment check.


26 posted on 01/08/2014 12:48:52 PM PST by redangus
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To: redangus

we had an old wood and coal burning furnace to heat the house on the family farm since the early 30s,, that sucker could get it going pretty good if fed well. nothing like shoveling coal.. or cutting and sawing wood up and hauling it.. over and over.. I miss it tho.. for all the muss.. that sucker would almost glow and singe yur brows if ya weren’t careful feeding the beast.

I have no idea how much stuff it spewed, the area survived, no one lives there, but it sure ain’t Chernobyl either.

an interstate freeway and interchange made sure of that.

oh vell . nothing to grouse about, progress happens, it’s all commercial stuff now,, and a shadow of itself. Time to go fire the fireplace, ponder what I can do to restore individual freedoms and not disturb the climate of the neighbors.


27 posted on 01/08/2014 1:01:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: justa-hairyape

laugh away,, its like the pilots are playing tic TAC toe some days.. and you never know what those whispy trails of stuff are and where they’ll end up.

It sure seems like activity in this area is up.. a lot of folks don’t know a cumulus cloud from their yaknow. ;-)

HaPPY Trails ..NOT!


28 posted on 01/08/2014 1:04:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Pilsner

I could think of about 57 locations for that.


29 posted on 01/08/2014 1:41:21 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: NormsRevenge

How exactly would you spray 100 million TONS of sulfur diodide into the atmosphere? Where would you get that much? How many million cargo plane trips would it take? How much of that 200,000,000,000 pounds of sulfur dioxide would be converted to sulfuric acid? Seriously, in my day they would have never given a Ph.D. to someone so stupid.


30 posted on 01/08/2014 2:07:16 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: NormsRevenge
“If we want to suppress global warming the only game in town at present is reducing greenhouse gas emissions.”How about this?

If the weather is too hot, Get your a$$ to a higher latitude.

Say goodbye to the sunny beaches, palm trees and fresh produce and hello to arctic snows and long nights.

It is an inconvenient truth that there is a lot of land bulldozed by the last Ice Age's glaciers which is sparsely inhabited, just waiting for you.

Just don't go screwing around with the natural mechanisms which brought the planet back from that last big cool event--y'know, in the time that civilization developed, at least in any recorded history we have.

31 posted on 01/08/2014 3:47:03 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rarestia
Just like when you call out an addict, instead of continuing to deny, they move forward with their plans at full throttle, come what may.

Oh. Like Obanomics, or Obamacare, or...

32 posted on 01/08/2014 3:49:44 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: NormsRevenge; redangus; zot

The house I grew up in was built next to my grandfather’s general store, they shared the same wall. I remember the big potbellied stove in the store. We’d burn our paper trash in it during the winter and also had coal as the primary heating element, with the occasional tree limbs. One had to watch it so that it did not get to hot and cause the tin stove pipe to the chimney from getting ‘cherry red.’


33 posted on 01/08/2014 4:48:06 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Heh! I remember potbellied stoves. When I was in the eighth grade, we lived in the mountains west of Denver. The one-room school had a potbellied stove. My job was to keep the wood-box full. That took about an hour a day.


34 posted on 01/08/2014 7:34:50 PM PST by zot
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