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Obama steps up pressure on Congress to extend unemployment benefits
CBS News ^ | January 7, 2014 | Rebecca Kaplan

Posted on 01/07/2014 9:52:37 AM PST by yoe

With the Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) program facing a bleak future in the Democratic-controlled Senate, President Obama is taking the lead in pressuring Congress to temporarily restore benefits for the 1.3 million long-term unemployed Americans who were cut off when the program (Long-term unemployed face life without emergency benefits) on Dec. 28.

Mr. Obama will continue a public show of support for an extension in a speech Tuesday, where he will be accompanied by Americans who have lost their benefits. In addition those who have already been dropped from the program, 1.9 million Americans will lose benefits in the next six months if Congress doesn’t act.

[snip]...Mr. Obama increased the frequency of his request for a fix, and made it the topic of his first weekly address of 2014.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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Well now....has the Biggest liar decided to not ummm, a, 'er lie any more? Who can believe a word Obama utters when he is known as a liar. The Republicans got as a concession to the Debt Ceiling a promise that this welfare farce would not happen. Got that? Boehner has been shafted again.

Hit the phones Freepers and help cut Mr. Obama off above the knees. Take some ACTION! Obama doesn't ever keep his word about anything.....everyone wise up...fool me once, fool me twice, fool me three time proves I am stupid!

1 posted on 01/07/2014 9:52:37 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Unemployment benefits are essentially a mandatory insurance policy your employer and the employee are forced to pay on your behalf. You can’t opt out. So while you are employed this is in effect coming out of YOUR paycheck.
The correct way to handle unemployment is either:
- make the coverage optional so that the employer can pay more money up front to the employee.
- Pay out all benefits in one lump sum just like any other insurance settlement with a valid claim on a loss.
If paid in a lump sum most people would have incentive to find work immediately.


2 posted on 01/07/2014 9:54:08 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: yoe
Boehner is a shaft giver himself and IMO should be out of power.
The simple word NO will suffice from any party with a spine, so yes the Republicans could have trouble with this as more of them are voted to retirement.
3 posted on 01/07/2014 9:55:59 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: yoe

I think the extension should be renamed the “Obama economic failure Act”.


4 posted on 01/07/2014 9:57:53 AM PST by oldbrowser
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To: yoe
With the Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) program facing a bleak future in the Democratic-controlled Senate

Waa?

5 posted on 01/07/2014 9:58:49 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: TurboZamboni
One big emergency with this liar.

How many times has he done this with unemployment?

Trillion dollar Job Stimulus?

Cave GOP again.

6 posted on 01/07/2014 9:58:54 AM PST by scooby321
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To: yoe

What does unemployment pay? $1100-$1200 a month? WTH are these people doing with that? Buying a bag of doritos and paying their cell phone bill? Do they live in their parent’s basement?


7 posted on 01/07/2014 9:59:30 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: yoe

Frankly, until we find a way to ‘shame these democrats’ into admitting it is their own policies that “require” an ongoing extension of benefits when unemployment is claimed to be below 8%...we will never fix the real economy.


8 posted on 01/07/2014 10:00:34 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: riri

I thing in most cases there is “underground employment” and/or spouses, domestic partners, etc.


9 posted on 01/07/2014 10:01:41 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: yoe

IMO, since the Pubbies are eventually going to cave on this anyway, they should just get it over with and pull the plug on his little sideshow.

We always seem to get the worst of both worlds....additional unwarranted spending AND Democrats bashing us about the face and head for weeks at a time.


10 posted on 01/07/2014 10:02:21 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: yoe

Oh heck. Why not just have a national minimum guaranteed income to be paid for by the people who have jobs.

/s


11 posted on 01/07/2014 10:03:37 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: yoe

DC switchboard:

202—224-3121

Ask for the lying Elitist hypocrite of your choice.


12 posted on 01/07/2014 10:04:21 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: scooby321
What happened to all that “stimulus” money anyway ?
13 posted on 01/07/2014 10:11:43 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: yoe
This perhaps is his only issue.

No one believes lucifercare, immagration just won't be discussed (imo), Republicans and The Tea Party have survived every attack and his tranny "wife" wants nothing to do with him.

We may not be able to impeach him ( I really want to think momentum is building ), but he can be shown to be the assclown embarrassment he is.

14 posted on 01/07/2014 10:15:33 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: yoe

Well what is it Mr. Marxist Obama?? You say you have created jobs but here you are saying people need emergency unemployment money. Why? If there are so many jobs?? Oh that’s right because you are a LIAR.


15 posted on 01/07/2014 10:17:48 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: yoe

I’m sure they “feel” pressured, when they are not rolling on the floor, laughing at him. ;-)


16 posted on 01/07/2014 10:18:59 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Agreed. Get it over with for now so it isn’t an issue. Fight it later from a stronger position.


17 posted on 01/07/2014 10:19:37 AM PST by prisoner6 (FREEDOM)
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To: yoe

Why? I thought the economy was booming! Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive! They create jobs by the hundreds of thousands every month!......................


18 posted on 01/07/2014 10:20:07 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It ( 17.2 billion) went to all his big political donors and their "green" projects .... they turned around and funneled it back. I saw Ed Henry talking about it to Megyn Kelly last night .... here's a link for you (Nov. article):

Schweizer: Obama Admin Uses 'Green Energy' Loans to 'Recycle' Money Back to Donors

19 posted on 01/07/2014 10:21:01 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: TurboZamboni

“””Unemployment benefits are essentially a mandatory insurance policy your employer and the employee are forced to pay on your behalf. You can’t opt out. So while you are employed this is in effect coming out of YOUR paycheck.””””

Maybe it’s different where you live. Around here it comes completely out of the EMPLOYERS pocket. When the unemployment fund gets low our rates go up. As an employer I have had enough of this “emergency” unemployment funding. It needs to stop.


20 posted on 01/07/2014 10:30:00 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: yoe

offer to pass the extension with;
- corresponding reductions in aid to Iran
- corresponding reductions in aid to PA
- in exchange for outlawing ANY exemptions to 0bamacare
- corresponding reductions in aid to Public Broadcasting
- corresponding reductions in aid to Planned Parenthood
- corresponding reductions in aid to ACORN or whatever it’s called now
- etc

point out his crap. make him pay for it


21 posted on 01/07/2014 10:35:10 AM PST by Principled
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To: shelterguy

if it comes out of “employer’s pocket”, does that not mean employer has less in their pocket to pay as wages or for new hires or growing the business?


22 posted on 01/07/2014 10:49:13 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: TurboZamboni
... does that not mean employer has less in their pocket

Of course not. According to Democrats all employers have huge pockets stuffed with a never-ending source of money. /s

23 posted on 01/07/2014 11:19:18 AM PST by ken in texas
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To: TurboZamboni
If paid in a lump sum most people would have incentive to find work immediately.

So, you would pay out 26 weeks worth of benefits in the first week of unemployment? Or 99 weeks in the first week?

A better solution is to pay out a decreasing amount each week. Start at the normal amount and decrease the benefit by $10 to 20 a week. That would inspire a job search.

24 posted on 01/07/2014 11:52:27 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: MissMagnolia
"It ( 17.2 billion) went to all his big political donors and their "green" projects .... they turned around and funneled it back."

And....while we are all watching we are seeing close to a Billion spent on the farce called Obamacare and the web site to sign up. Obviously never meant to work, the Obamacare Web Site was intentionally sabotaged from the get-go as no computer expert (as was claimed) could have unintentionally created such a mess.....in short, it was never meant to work, just meant to pay back friends of O & M with America's little 'ol treasury. True to his race, this little dictator is emptying the safe before he leaves......

25 posted on 01/07/2014 1:08:09 PM PST by yoe
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To: aimhigh

good idea.


26 posted on 01/07/2014 1:18:28 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: aimhigh

“”If paid in a lump sum most people would have incentive to find work immediately.

So, you would pay out 26 weeks worth of benefits in the first week of unemployment? Or 99 weeks in the first week?

A better solution is to pay out a decreasing amount each week. Start at the normal amount and decrease the benefit by $10 to 20 a week. That would inspire a job search. “””””

Very true. I know many people that just coast along until it looks like the money will stop coming. Only when faced with no income do they get on the ball to find work. And so many people turn down jobs when they are on unemployment because sitting in moms basement is a whole lot easier.

Start at full benefit amount and reduce it each week until it just disappears.


27 posted on 01/07/2014 1:51:48 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: TurboZamboni

“””if it comes out of “employer’s pocket”, does that not mean employer has less in their pocket to pay as wages or for new hires or growing the business?””””

The “employers pocket” is also used to pay for overhead, utilities, trucks, repairs, insurance and a gob of other things. If I could run a business without all those pesky things I could hire more people and pay them more.


28 posted on 01/07/2014 1:53:50 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: TurboZamboni
Unemployment benefits are essentially a mandatory insurance policy your employer and the employee are forced to pay on your behalf

That's the way unemployment benefits worked for years. I have been both employer and employee, so I can verify that the employer pays a rate based upon the remuneration to each employee AND the employer's history of layoffs, i.e. if you never lay people off, the percentage of salary which you pay for the insurance premium goes down.

However, my understanding is that these 'extensions' are both Federally mandated and Federally funded. In other words, welfare subsidized by the taxpayer.

I have not been an employer during the Obamanation, so I would defer to someone with more complete knowledge.

29 posted on 01/07/2014 2:21:51 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: TurboZamboni; All

Yes, I thought as much.

The EXTENSIONS are not funded in the same manner as normal unemployment benefits, rather they are:

“EUC is a 100% federally funded program that provides benefits to individuals who have exhausted regular state benefits. The EUC program was created on June 30, 2008, and has been modified several times. Most recently, the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012 (P.L. 112-240) extended the expiration date of the EUC program to January 1, 2014.”

http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/unemploy/supp_act.asp


30 posted on 01/07/2014 2:26:46 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: shelterguy

Do federal regulations require employers to pay for all of those utilities instead of opting out and choosing to hire more workers and pay them more?


31 posted on 01/07/2014 2:37:16 PM PST by freedom462
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To: yoe

My understand now is indeed that there are much more jobs available out there than people think, but that not working has literally become too attractive to people. And that there are whole industries that have more job openings than a applicants but for numerous reasons, this being one, they still don’t have takers for all their positions.

In addition to having it be 6 months (maybe 9 if there is a legit recession) and having to show proof that you looked for jobs there could also be a way to provide monitoring to those who are looking for work and ensure that they conduct job interviews properly and provide proof that they did their job searches properly. And show that they looked at ALL available jobs - in other words, cut off unemployment benefits to anyone who is only looking at jobs they find attractive and cannot show proof that they seriously considered all job opportunities that were handed to them. Now I know that local, state and federal gov’ts can and would find plenty of ways to screw this system up but I suspect it would still work way better than what we have now.


32 posted on 01/07/2014 2:42:39 PM PST by freedom462
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To: freedom462

I know someone who’s been unemployed for over a year. At know time has the state of Md ever checked to see if she’s applied for any job at all. She just goes on line and lies. She also just had knee surgery and can’t work but is still receiving unemployment. Nobody seems to care if you’re really looking for work. It’s just become a scam.


33 posted on 01/07/2014 2:47:29 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: beandog

if she had knee surgery, isn’t she also on disability? From what I gather, there’s a good chance she is taking in unemployment and disability. Disability claims, btw, take up way more public resources than welfare and probably more than unemployment too.


34 posted on 01/07/2014 2:49:32 PM PST by freedom462
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To: yoe

If you have received the mandatory 26 weeks which was extended to 99 weeks, thus Unemployment Compensation should be done with. The employer pays for the insurance and what is the government stating that the employers are to continue paying the insurance. This is just a redistribution of wealth.


35 posted on 01/07/2014 3:10:47 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: freedom462

She is not receiving disability. Even if she could get approved, it would take a while. In the meantime you are not supposed to be collecting unemployment unless you are available and ready to work, which she is not. She doesn’t want employment to know she really can’t work so she can keep receiving it.

My real point is nobody is checking to actually see if any of these people are actually looking for employment or even able to work. It has just become another welfare program.


36 posted on 01/07/2014 3:28:39 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: beandog

“”My real point is nobody is checking to actually see if any of these people are actually looking for employment or even able to work. It has just become another welfare program.”””

that’s because the system is overwhelmed. There are so many people collecting that they cannot do a proper audit of the claims. As long as you don’t kick up a red flag you can slide along for a long time.


37 posted on 01/07/2014 4:38:39 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Original Chinese Proverb:

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.

2012 White House Revision:

Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with unlimited free minutes, cash for his clunker, food stamps, Section 8 housing, free contraceptives, Medicaid, 99 weeks of unemployment, free meds, and he will vote democrat the rest of his life-—even after he’s dead.


38 posted on 01/07/2014 6:24:30 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

It got wasted in fraudulent loans.


39 posted on 01/07/2014 7:17:57 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (2014 the year of dead RINOs)
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To: yoe

Well when their unemployment runs out then they should just get their Obamaphone, Obamahome, Obamaloan, WIC, SNAP, WELFARE, that ought to net them more than they make working right there... Nothing like dis-incentivizing work, nothing could be more unamerican but hey welcome to the fundamental change... Everyone should quit working and chill out smoke pot all day and let the stupid people that want to work pay for all of it... LOL...


40 posted on 01/08/2014 4:11:26 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The fundamental transformation resistance is futile you will be assimilated.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Correct way is to get the gov’t and the employer out of the mix.

Setup Unemployment Savings Accounts (like they used to have, or at least like I *USED* to have, Health Savings Accounts):

- Pre-tax
- Self owned
- Moves with, from job to job
- Ding ‘em for ‘use’ if employed during the year

Course, that would take power and influence away from D.C. so I know it’ll never happen.

Otherwise, I agree with you; they’ve (gov’t) has distorted what INSURANCE means (SSI, Unemploy, etc.)


41 posted on 01/09/2014 6:35:16 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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