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To: vpintheak
bums who won't take a job after two years

Valid arguments on both sides of this issue. But, one of the attitudes that continue to perplex me are attitudes like your statement.

Many of these unemployed are older generation individuals who have burned through any savings and who are unable to find work, simply because in many areas of this country, there are no jobs. In other locations, the limited jobs available are going to younger workers.

Your statement makes it sound as if things are just fine in the Obama economy and it's these unemployed who just want something for nothing, as if these unemployed aren't victims at all. I'm fairly sure nothing is further from the truth.

The hostility being expressed by some here and elsewhere is misdirected. Instead of blaming the unemployed, why are so few identifying the real cause of a terrible jobs market and placing blame where it belongs...the resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

26 posted on 01/07/2014 9:24:41 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought

Sorry, but if someone can’t find work after 2 YEARS, they belong on welfare, not collecting unemployment benefits.

That’s why we have a welfare system!


34 posted on 01/07/2014 9:56:39 AM PST by catman67
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To: Rational Thought
Many of these unemployed are older generation individuals who have burned through any savings and who are unable to find work, simply because in many areas of this country, there are no jobs. In other locations, the limited jobs available are going to younger workers.

Bingo.

Your statement makes it sound as if things are just fine in the Obama economy and it's these unemployed who just want something for nothing, as if these unemployed aren't victims at all. I'm fairly sure nothing is further from the truth.

The hostility being expressed by some here and elsewhere is misdirected. Instead of blaming the unemployed, why are so few identifying the real cause of a terrible jobs market and placing blame where it belongs...the resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

As someone who is older and has been unemployed for over a year I thank you. It is very difficult as an older worker to find a job and for those who want to tell me to work at mcdonalds etc, let me tell you, mcdonalds isn't going to waste their time and money on me because they know as soon as the economy turns around I'm outta there and secondly, I speak English! There is an incredible amount of age discrimination, I've experienced it over the last year, can't prove it, my word against theirs but I can tell you it's blatantly obvious employers are not interested in older workers, they want the young so they can mold them, they want the young who don't know any better, they want the young who will take the BS.

People on unemployment are not making money hand over fist like some people believe. Here in MA you get half of what you were making and there is a limit....if you were making $500. a week you get $250.00 on unemployment BEFORE taxes, trying paying your bills on that....or if you were making over $1306.00 a week the max you can get from unemployment in MA is $653.00 a week BEFORE taxes....imagine a sales person making $100k a year = $1923 a week and here in MA that person would only get $653. a week, trying paying your bills on that and feeding your family, etc. In other states the formula is a lot different and the amounts are a lot smaller. And AFAIK no one is getting 99 weeks anymore, IIRC they did away with that.

40 posted on 01/07/2014 10:11:32 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Rational Thought

Your post is spot on. I have a BS and have started my Master’s yet still have a hard time landing even part time work, as I have recently begun sending out my CV for PT work instead of just FT as I was doing previously. I am amazed at the headlines which claim the economy is recovering. Does not feel that way to me.


43 posted on 01/07/2014 10:18:02 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Rational Thought
Who's fault is it that they cannot find a job? This government is actively working to prevent the creation of jobs, Obamacare is now preventing employers from hiring full time, instead can only hire to work 29 hours a week in order to avoid fines under Obamacare!

Now that the government is preventing Americans from working, the solution to the problem is to steal 6 billion dollars from the tax payers who are still working and give it to the moochers who cannot find a job for the last 100 weeks! Hell, why don't the government just pay Americans for ever not to work?

Instead of creating jobs by getting government off the neck of the American people who want to start jobs and end this communist health care crap, we are being made to pay Americans to sit in front of the tv with a bag of chips and a beer and draw unemployment for what another 100 weeks?

I have had it with the moochers who vote by what this communist party will give them for FREE!

53 posted on 01/07/2014 11:26:29 AM PST by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: Rational Thought
I'm fairly sure nothing is further from the truth.

Not so sure about that. Sure, there are struggling people. But my guess is that many of these people have a background of a welfare culture where they just take the money because it's there.

If the bias starts to move against these funds, only then will many of these people realize that they have to change their mentality. Nothing else will do it for many of them.

Again, I do feel sorry for the real victims caught in the mess.

60 posted on 01/07/2014 12:04:19 PM PST by what's up
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