Skip to comments.We the people can nullify the unconstitutional ObamaCare ourselves!! Refuse to submit to tyranny!!
Posted on 01/02/2014 10:50:33 AM PST by Jim Robinson
We the people can nullify Obamas unconstitutional communist POS by simply refusing to submit. If the majority of the people dont sign up for it, it dies on the vine. In fact it wouldnt take anywhere close to a majority. Twenty to thirty percent ought to do it.
It's not going to work anyway. Socialism never works. We need to kill if it we want to save our constitutional republic!
No surrender, no retreat!!
Do not sign away your freedom!!
Do not submit to the godless leftist wannabe dictators!!
We are the resistance!!
No way I will participate in this statist farce.
I am practicing what you preach. No O-care for me. Good idea boss.
The individual mandate is unconstitutional and illegal. Doesn’t matter what roberts said. He’s wrong.
Personally I don’t know a single person that has signed up. We can’t. The website doesn’t work. *wink*
Also see my post at #14.
Jim, I’ve been thinking about this for a long time. It may be the answer. If 1,100,000 have signed up, what about the other 328,000,000? If so few give in to the government, the government loses its power, doesn’t it?
This sounds too easy. Is there a catch somewhere?
I’m doing my part!
Even if the web-site did work, I wouldn’t put my personal information on it. I don’t trust it!
Personally, I think that guy is the living humiliation of participatory democracy, and he has all the political wiseguys, Karl Rove included, laughing up their sleeves at the Peepul. Bring back poll testing! Hell, bring back intelligence testing! We need a better electorate .... and about 15 special prosecutors!
Where's Hercules when you need him? Time to clean out the stables.
I did a radio interview this morning and said that I thought Obama Care would die as a result of the “failure to launch” syndrome .in other words, people just avoiding it like the plague.
So Jim, you on the money!!
Guts! I like that.
Agree. I’d also like to say that current IRS ability to collect the fines [Roberts said ‘taxes’, yet there is no weight behind it] if from REFUNDS due to the taxpayer.
What does this mean? If you compute your tax liability accurately and DO NOT end up with a refund due, the IRS CANNOT do a thing about it except carry that so-called debt over to the next year. They cannot collect otherwise.
This is the tactic they fear the most.
Remember the Volstead Act? As Obamacare enthusiast/mindless drones (but I repeat myself) like to say, the Volstead Act was "settled law". Yeah, right.
Same with gun surrender.
look at prohibition.
They think they've got that covered, with rapidly-rising rates of penalization in years 2 and 3. Basically, poorhouse in four years, is what they're projecting for nonparticipants.
Time to throw down and see who's got the grunt.
But we'll need lots of Tea Party people running the House, to keep the RiNO's from calling off the special prosecutors when they hit paydirt, and instead selling them out to the 'Rats for Fortune 500 tax breaks.
I agree. We can petition the government with a constitutional amendment and overturn this monstrosity, just like prohibition was overturned via a constitutional amendment. The courts then cannot declare the constitutional amendment null and void.
I have been thinking for weeks that we can overturn this law with a constitutional amendment, but I have no idea how to even get this petition started?
Well, Islam had an “Arab Spring”, maybe we need an “American Spring”:
38 states is the magic number.
Get that many together and nothing can stop it.
Can erase the president, congress, even the supreme court from memory, as well as any and all bad laws.
So far, have close to 30 who are suing against obamacare.
Totally with you, Jim.
As for the other FReeper comment about how many have signed up vs. how many haven’t, just realize that the 1.1 million lie told by Sebelius includes a goodly majority of signees that went on Medicaid, not Obamacare.
And Medicaid is a horribly deficient program that was crashing and burning before all these new signees.
Don’t ever confuse health insurance with health CARE delivery.
These bureaucrats aren’t doctors, clinics or hospitals. They can’t deliver a dime’s worth of care, all they can due is ruin the care we had in America.
Think people won’t notice that their health CARE is ruined?
I told my 18 year old granddaughter to ignore the whole damn thing and that I will pay her fines, should any ever be imposed.
Bring It On, Commies.
PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1940's ERA EUROPE Obama And The Dumbos marching in lockstep. The persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat in obeisance to Obama kept ringing reassuringly in our ears.
As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act :
OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if youve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All Im going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. Youll still have choice of doctor.
Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.
DEMOCRATS CHIME IN:
SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it. (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)
SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: We believe and we stand by this if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward. (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): If you like your insurance, you keep it. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)
SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it. (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)
SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it. (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)
SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term grandfathered plans. If you have a plan you like existing policies you can keep them. we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in. (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)
THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve. (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)
SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want. (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)
SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you. (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)
SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, were going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want. (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)
SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it (Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)
SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)
SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change. (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)
SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): People who have insurance theyre happy with can keep it We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance theyre happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage. (Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired, National Journals Congress Daily, 6/18/09)
SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): If you like the insurance that you have, youll be able to keep it. (MSNBCs Hardball, 12/16/09)
SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): [I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have. (CNNs Newsroom, 10/22/09)
SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): If you like what you have, you get to keep it Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans wont have to change. If you like what you have, you get to keep it, he said. (Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says, The Record, 6/19/09)
SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): [E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it. (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)
SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it. (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)
SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): I want people to know, the Presidents promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)
SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it. (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): If you have coverage you like, you can keep it, says Sen. Sanders. (Sick And Wrong, Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)
SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it My understanding is that if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. under every scenario that Ive seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it. (Sen. Shaheen, Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire, Accessed 11/13/13)
SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairmans remark is is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. Thats a strong commitment. Its clear in the bill I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. Thats the bottom line for me. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)
SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): If you like your coverage, youll be able to keep it, Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger. (Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care, The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)
SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It wont. If you like your current plan, you can keep it. (What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress, Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)
SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): ..it honors President Obamas programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything. (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)
Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."
FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8I
I have informed my congresswoman, Jaime Herrera Beutler, that the ACA is not only unconstitutional but illegal; it isn’t even the law that was passed by a Democrat controlled Congress and signed by Obama.
It has been changed on a whimsical basis by Obama, and should have gone back to Congress after Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts altered it.
She and other Republicans must stop claiming, “it is the law of the land”, when it is in fact not any sort of law!
They hope we fear them. I am angry they have done this to America and I will not comply.
Until a Constitutional amendment repealed it.
NOTE WELL: ... the biggest ACA whopper is yet to be exposed: the feds tightening their grip over your doctor and your healthcare. Section 1311(h)(1)(B) gives the Secretary of HHS blanket authority to dictate how doctors treat patients. Not just patients in government programs like Medicare and Medicaid, but patients with private plans they pay for themselves. On Dec. 2, 2013, we learned from the Federal Register that the rules are now being written. Starting in 2015, insurance companies will be barred from doing business with doctors who fail to comply.
More than half the cost of O/Care's so-called "senior entitlement" scam is subsidized by actually restricting and rationing senior care---by cutting what hospitals, doctors, hospice care, home care and Advantage plans are paid to care for seniors.
THE CUTS ARE NO ACCIDENT: "Tolerant and compassionate" Obama knows that the most expensive h/care is delivered the last three years of life.......
Sen Harry Reid, 74, recently said that enrolling in O/Care costs him about $4,500 more than before. But Harry says that's OK b/c the increase is "age-related.
(Sniffle) "Tolerant and compassionate" Obama knows that the most expensive h/care is delivered the last three years of life...so oldsters HAVE to pay more (sob).
Heck, socking Harry w/ a massive increase could even save money. For sure, decrepit Sen Harry will necessitate expensive medical care for diseases of old age including the ones he's being treated for now--- senility, Alzheimer's, dementia, arthritis, osteoarthritis, heart problems, heart attacks, stroke, kidney failure, prostate enlargement, osteoporosis (brittle bones)....etc.
Course, just in case ol' Harry hangs in there, Obamacare's I-PAB kicks in to ration medical care when stubborn old buzzards like Harry insist on getting more healthcare than his lousy $4500 per month entitles him to.
Harry's dam lucky he represents Nevada---if he represented Alaska, he'd been on the ice floe w/ the rest of the older, sick Eskimos----floating out into the frigid Arctic Ocean wearing a sealskin coat, bearskin shorts, and a pair of mukluks.
Can’t it also be repealed via a majority of state legislatures ?
When the donkeys find out 0bamacare requires photo ID, they too will be against it.
the cost alone of those policies (once the slow information voters get beyond the premium fees and figure out the deductibles and co pays) is gonna turn a lot of folks into resisters
question is how much stronger obama is willing to deploy his IRS army against the resistance
and how hard the formerly middle class blithely forced into MEDICAID are going to try to escape the snare
I’m telling my sons the same thing. Obama’s socialist POS is nothing but a national nightmare anyway. Even those who surrender to it will pay through the nose. Their healthcare bills will be higher than their mortgages.
Here’s a recent real life sample of their utopian socialist government at work:
“Cant it also be repealed via a majority of state legislatures ?”
see post 23
I will not comply.
Amen, Something I have been saying for a while now. Nullification by We the People, Citizen Nullification!
But there will be an Added benefit, Once people realize this, Authority is rooted and founded by them (again) Obamacare will not be the only Color of Law/Rule/Regulation to Fall!
So when are our fearless leaders in the Senate and House going to start acting on this. They know what he's done isn't legal yet they remain silent on the matter. *sigh*
How to Opt Out of Obamacare:
Make that FIVE sharing ministries (deathcare exempt healthcare sharing ministries):
“They think they’ve got that covered, with rapidly-rising rates of penalization in years 2 and 3. Basically, poorhouse in four years, is what they’re projecting for nonparticipants.”
You can join a health sharing ministry. Exempts you from the penalty.
I need health care, but I’d rather die than comply with anything the evil commie POS tries to force down my free throat. Amen Jim, and keep going.
You haven’t even mentioned the incredible security flaws on the website. Just on that one, ALONE, I will never sign up.
Count me in!!