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‘Duck Dynasty’ Mess Revealed That Not All Fundamentalists Live in the Bible Belt
Time Magazine ^ | December 29, 2013 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 12/29/2013 7:23:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Gay-rights activists have won the culture war—why the need to act like sore winners?

Duck Dynasty patriarch Phil Robertson’s victory over the A&E network, which sheepishly reinstated him late Friday, is a rare culture war victory for conservatives. Though Robertson’s controversial remarks to GQ magazine were fairly cringeworthy, it is exhilarating to see the zero-tolerance liberal commissars who police the public square with such Javert-like zeal get their, er, goose cooked by their worst nightmare: a rural, Southern, fundamentalist Christian duck hunter who does not give a tinker’s damn what they think.

Bien-pensant activists and their corporate and media enablers lecture us endlessly about the virtues of “diversity” and “tolerance.” In fact, these are Orwellian terms they use to mask the intolerant monoculture that they truly desire — one that sends dissenters from the maximalist gay rights line to the… well, to the closet.

We may (must?) celebrate a gay man hanging naked by hooks embedded in his back before a cheering crowd — as happened at this year’s Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco, the annual sadomasochism festival, sponsored in part by Marriott Hotels and American Airlines — but we must banish from public sight a Bible-quoting fundamentalist who believes what nearly all Christians believed about homosexuality until around 50 years ago. A society in which St. Paul’s letters are considered “hate speech” is one with no place for traditional Christians. And people are surprised that these Christians push back?

The thing is, gay-rights activists have won the culture war. America has changed and is changing with astonishing speed....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aande; christians; dixie; dreher; duckdynasty; homosexualagenda; philrobertson
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1 posted on 12/29/2013 7:23:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good writing. Time magazine? Surprised.


2 posted on 12/29/2013 7:26:43 PM PST by IChing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The thing is, gay-rights activists have won the culture war. America has changed and is changing with astonishing speed....

Huh?

The tides of battle are fickle, indeed, but the War is far from over.

It's like saying the British put down the uprising after Bunker Hill.

We have only just begun to fight.

3 posted on 12/29/2013 7:29:44 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...actually, I’m less enthusiastic the further into it I read...


4 posted on 12/29/2013 7:30:39 PM PST by IChing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, but Time is wrong and Duck Dynasty is right! Just another minor victory for decency and religious free speech (which has been on the decline lately).


5 posted on 12/29/2013 7:32:42 PM PST by Deagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You know what would be nice? If the people who make and shape culture — TV producers, journalists, activists and the like — would take this moment to reflect on how ignorant and intolerant they are of their own country, and the world beyond their cultural bubble.

I often wonder how many of these people even know any conservatives. I personally enjoy my time with liberal relatives because it gives me a chance to engage in lively debate with people outside my own personal echo chamber. They get the same.
6 posted on 12/29/2013 7:33:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: IChing
Good writing. Time magazine? Surprised.

"Though Robertson’s controversial remarks to GQ magazine were fairly cringe worthy"

They are only controversial because people with AN AGENDA choose to make them controversial. 99% of straight people didn't find them cringe worthy.

7 posted on 12/29/2013 7:33:35 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
who does not give a tinker’s damn

The expression is "tinker's dam," as in something of no more consequence than the mother of a tinker. Two hoots. Same idea. (Not that I personally endorse looking down on tinkers or their saintly mothers. . .)

8 posted on 12/29/2013 7:34:00 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: IChing

The WHOLE article boils down to sat that we have the right to be wrong. I don’t believe we’re wrong!


9 posted on 12/29/2013 7:34:08 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: IChing

Did you read the sentences, “The thing is, gay-rights activists have won the culture war. America has changed and is changing with astonishing speed”?

No, they have not “won” the culture war. For the sake of my daughters, they have not won the culture war.


10 posted on 12/29/2013 7:35:07 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Tinker’s Damn”—Sweet phrasing, that.


11 posted on 12/29/2013 7:36:33 PM PST by madison10
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The homo agenda is about misogyny.


12 posted on 12/29/2013 7:41:13 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s less than 50 years ago. I believe I was in my twenties when the whole “being homosexual is an acceptable lifestyle” agenda started to really be pushed. That was 30 something years ago.

In any case, they don’t win. I’ve read the book.


13 posted on 12/29/2013 7:48:14 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t get it. Robertson spoke bluntly and plainly. How else can one talk about the differences between “starights” and homosexuals without talking about basic biology? He didn’t use childish terms like “bush” and “pussy,” which are truly vulgar, because he is long past being childish.


14 posted on 12/29/2013 7:52:55 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: cripplecreek

I want to be in your echo chamber

everyone I am around is a lib


15 posted on 12/29/2013 7:53:28 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” who believes what nearly all Christians believed about homosexuality until around 50 years ago”

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Errrrrr, no. Up to the PRESENT day and beyond, TYVM.

Do I tolerate as a Christian....yeah, whatevah.

Do I ACCEPT and CELEBRATE as a Christian? Um, no.


16 posted on 12/29/2013 7:54:12 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: madison10

“Tinker’s Damn”—Sweet phrasing, that.
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British phrase, if I’m correct.


17 posted on 12/29/2013 7:55:22 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: SamuraiScot

I just love old sayings. My grandfather used to say “cyarn”. Found out many years later her meant “carrion”. (Scots-Irish blood, here......with Cherokee for the mix. ;-))

He would say....smells like cyarn in heah!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker


18 posted on 12/29/2013 8:00:23 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: SamuraiScot
"The expression is "tinker's dam," as in something of no more consequence than the mother of a tinker."

FWIW, the explanation I heard for the phrase was that "tinkers" traveled around doing odd jobs like repairing pots and pans with holes in them. The dam was a small clay wall built around the hole that contained a small amount of molten metal until the metal cooled and completed the repair. The now-worthless dam was then discarded. I have no idea if that is where the expression actually came from.

19 posted on 12/29/2013 8:06:53 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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The dam was a small clay wall built around the hole that contained a small amount of molten metal. . . I have no idea if that is where the expression actually came from.

Ooops. That rings a bell. I did read that once, now that you remind me, and it makes more sense. I think your explanation is the real origin. Sorry about that. In any case, we've established that it's a "dam" and not a "damn," darn it!

20 posted on 12/29/2013 8:25:34 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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