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Should Democrats press the public option? (Here comes Single Payer!)
The Washington Post's Plum Line ^ | December 24, 2013 | George Zornick

Posted on 12/24/2013 3:52:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

There’s no question that the Affordable Care Act’s rollout has been “rocky,” to borrow the common parlance of the Beltway. The Web site troubles and shifting health coverage for some Americans, despite over-assurances from President Obama during the 2010 political debate, have naturally turned off some people. A much-ballyhooed poll from CNN yesterday shows that support for “Obamacare” has dropped to an all-time low.

But conservatives toasting the apparent turn in public opinion ought to look a little closer at the polling data. It’s true that only 35 percent of Americans favor the law, while 43 percent oppose it. But there’s a crucial third group: 15 percent oppose the ACA because it’s “not liberal enough.” That means that 50 percent of Americans either support the law or want policy changes that shift leftward.

Looking at the polls in that light suddenly shifts the political calculus. Republicans who want to repeal and “replace” the legislation — with measures that have never been entirely clear, especially when it comes to the most popular provisions of the ACA — are suddenly facing an uphill battle with the public.

This presents a pretty clear road map for Democrats worried that the biggest legislative achievement of the Obama era might turn against them....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; obama; obamacare; singlepayer
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Just like many of us predicted. This was goofed-up on purpose so that all the moochers would demand "free health care" for all.
1 posted on 12/24/2013 3:53:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not a fan of public referendums but is there any doubt a national referendum to roll back the ACA would get 70%?


2 posted on 12/24/2013 4:02:56 PM PST by AU72
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Public option. Great idea.
Look what a great job Dems are doing with Obamacare the way it is. What could go wrong?

If Republicans had the guts to tell Americans that Medicare is paid for with borrowed $$$, they would have a great case against Medicare for all. But as long as they are too scared to admit that its hard to make a good case.

Seniors LOVE medicare. Why not?


3 posted on 12/24/2013 4:03:00 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I predicted this when Obamacare was being debated.

I guarantee you, if single-payer happens, that Obamacare website will work like magic. All the glitches and tech problems are by design.

4 posted on 12/24/2013 4:03:41 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Theis was definitely goofed up — but they didn’t expect it to fail so quickly so that it makes the government look totally discredited and incompetent. Pushing single payer now would be a complete disaster for Democrats.


5 posted on 12/24/2013 4:05:49 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who didn’t see this coming?

Back in 08, you just had to read. It was all out there.

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/11/20/tom-daschles-blueprint-for-health-reform/


6 posted on 12/24/2013 4:07:30 PM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well that was fast!


7 posted on 12/24/2013 4:08:12 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Menehune56

This poll is a POS


8 posted on 12/24/2013 4:10:31 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Take out the trash)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

AND of course, all of the chump insurance companies will get full blame! “They wanted this more than us, they were completely on board-—greedy bastards-—We’re here for YOU!”


9 posted on 12/24/2013 4:16:21 PM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Geez, they are really going to get any healthcare. Welcome to Cuba.


10 posted on 12/24/2013 4:26:33 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The commie WaPo readers' comments are running strongly toward favoring National Socialist healthcare rationing.
11 posted on 12/24/2013 4:34:28 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Think they can’t make it worse?

Yes they can


12 posted on 12/24/2013 4:37:00 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

# 1 - Communist New Network and its polls have a leftist bent.

# 2 - “That means that 50 percent of Americans either support the law or want policy changes that shift leftward. “

No, it means 50% of Americans DON’T want government medical care.


13 posted on 12/24/2013 4:38:12 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: sickoflibs

“If Republicans had the guts to tell Americans that Medicare is paid for with borrowed $$$”

do you mean “medicaid” rather than medicare? those 65 and over who are eligible for medicare pay 100+ dollars a month for coverage.


14 posted on 12/24/2013 4:40:00 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: AU72
Looking at the polls in that light suddenly shifts the political calculus. Republicans who want to repeal and “replace” the legislation — with measures that have never been entirely clear, especially when it comes to the most popular provisions of the ACA are suddenly facing an uphill battle with the public.

HUH? Bwhahahahahaha.. stop it.... Hahahahahahhahahaah... cough.... Hahahahahahahhahabwhhwhwhwhwh

15 posted on 12/24/2013 4:45:27 PM PST by carlo3b (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.. Henry Kissinger)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Something that I learned overseas is that there is a big difference between passing a law and enforcing it or obtaining obedience.


16 posted on 12/24/2013 4:51:27 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Getting some small say in who will get to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“All the glitches and tech problems are by design.”

All of BHO’s seeming confusion and fecklessness is by design, purposeful. I haven’t read Cloward-Piven, but I’ll bet this tactic is clearly outlined. At the right moment, an Executive Order will sweep away the fog, and Socialized Medicine will spring into full force. What’s next? Federal control of all banking? We have no political weapon, short of seizure of opposing power through elections, and there will be no opportunity for that before Jan.2017. At that point, America becomes an historical relic.


17 posted on 12/24/2013 4:51:33 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: AU72

The problem with a “national” referendum is that we can not even secure the integrity of the vote now. You want to add this to the mix.....no thanks.


18 posted on 12/24/2013 4:58:51 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is it a mental illness to trust leftists who lied about if you like your healthcare you can keep it. Period!!!


19 posted on 12/24/2013 4:59:48 PM PST by RginTN
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To: RginTN

yes


20 posted on 12/24/2013 5:01:30 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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