[fifedom]

According to the loony judge, once you get a government job that locks in your retirement, insurance, etc. benefits as of that time and the city cannot change that going forward. CA is doomed but if this holds on appeal it will speed up the crash and burn.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

This ruling will last 5 minutes before an appeal...

[dragnet2]

Try to imagine private sector jobs where your pensions, insurance and benefits are locked in and the employer can’t touch them and it takes a act of congress to even fire you...

[umgud]

Sumpn’s gotta give.

[Vendome]

Pension reform has to take place and it should apply to all new employees and be part of negotiated agreements in the future .

Also, any officer hired should sign a contract obligation him to 5 years or the employees will pay back the costs for training.

[VRWC For Truth]

When the cupboard is bare, good luck collecting ...

[JABit]

Too bad they don’t give the same consideration to our military.

[cherry]

so for new employees, Measure B can be activated.....its just the precious fannys of the current workers and the precious retirees that can't be touched...

so what we have here is the old again robbing from the young....the haves and the have nots....

these retirees and older workers just don't care that their obscene pensions and benefits are borne on the back of the new workers, often the young with young children...

[TheConservator]

This was a ruling under California state law.

It is irrelevant to what happens when a city files for bankruptcy. What happens in bankruptcy court is generally governed by federal bankruptcy law. Under bankruptcy law, pension benefits can be cut. What this state court judge claims state law requires about pensions will not be relevant.

[Dapper 26]

Bankruptcy is the only way out. DO IT NOW!!!

[kingu]

So, according to this judge, every time a city employee is hired, they automatically become an elected official who determines future budgets.

Because, in the fantasy world, that is what people are elected to do; make the city budget. In this judge's reality, people are elected to simply approve previous city hirings and benefits promises.

Probably because judges have their own compensation plan and those too are lifetime benefits, and without rubber stamping all other big benefits, theirs too might be on the chopping block.

So pay up, all cities, give all the people's money to...the government employees.

[HarleyD]

Pension reform is needed but once the government/companies makes a promise of a pension, they should be held to paying for that pension. People make decisions based upon benefits offer and if one person takes a lower paying job with a guarantee of a pension verses a higher paying job with no pension, the government/company should have to follow through on that. Few on this site would argue that our military pensions should be cut. It's the same principle.