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Why not cut to the chase and require the insurers to provide free coverage? The insurers collaborated with the Rats and are getting their just desserts, but bankrupting them would bring us closer to single-payer.
1 posted on 12/12/2013 6:41:52 PM PST by reaganaut1
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Although it's been said many times many ways, "clusterf__k" IS Obamacare.
2 posted on 12/12/2013 6:44:36 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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3 posted on 12/12/2013 6:45:51 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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Republicans in Congress expressed surprise. They said the administration was essentially telling companies like Humana and WellPoint to insure people before payment and change the very nature of their networks and coverage on a case-by-case basis.

Fundamental change. It's what the people voted for.

5 posted on 12/12/2013 6:46:56 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Obama broke it but he wants everybody else to fix it.


6 posted on 12/12/2013 6:47:59 PM PST by AU72
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Is there any law at all or is it just whatever Obama and his agents say it is on any given day? When is he just going to deem everyone is covered by Obamacare and all doctors and hospitals must treat everyone ... or else?
7 posted on 12/12/2013 6:50:38 PM PST by Truth29
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The administration encouraged insurers on Thursday to accept late payments and partial payments

Did I hear the IRS is going to play by the same rules at tax paying time?

8 posted on 12/12/2013 6:54:28 PM PST by gusopol3
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"but I've got a pre-existing condition"
9 posted on 12/12/2013 6:56:28 PM PST by dontreadthis
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"While these steps are voluntary, federal officials said they could consider an insurer’s response in deciding whether to allow the company to participate in the federal exchange in 2015. " Yep. Do not displease Dear Leader..
11 posted on 12/12/2013 7:06:14 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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While these steps are voluntary, federal officials said they could consider an insurer’s response in deciding whether to allow the company to participate in the federal exchange in 2015.

In other words, a threat. Not getting paid? Doesn't matter. Extend coverage anyway and if you don't you're excluded from the xchange in 2015. Talk about dictatorial Govt...

The administration had predicted that up to 400,000 people would enroll in the high-risk pool. In fact, about 135,000 did so, but the cost of their claims has far exceeded White House estimates, exhausting most of the $5 billion provided by Congress.

So they got a quarter of projected participants, but money has ALREADY run out?

12 posted on 12/12/2013 7:09:17 PM PST by what's up
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require the insurers to provide free coverage?

Looks like that's exactly what they're being asked to do. They are being urged to allow people into the program who pay either nothing or partial payment.

And if they don't, they may not be able to continue on the exchange in 2015.

13 posted on 12/12/2013 7:11:08 PM PST by what's up
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Heard Krauthammer with Greta talking about Sebelius changing the law/rules today and he said something like “she can’t just change that law”. Well, she did and Hussein has changed it over and over and what the hell difference does ANY law make? If you don’t like “x” law, then do whatever you want. I’ve had it with the whole bunch of nation killers.


14 posted on 12/12/2013 7:11:47 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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With every passing day we get yet another taste of this crap sandwich that is 0bama(doesn’t)care.
Keep your doctor? Nah.
Keep your plan? Nah.
Sixty year old man? You need maternity care.
Keep your efficacious medication plan? Nah.
Only have a few more ‘productive’ years per the actuary charts? We’ll have to cut your care options.

I am both amazed and greatly saddened that the American people can’t see this for the hoax that it is. Every FReeper knows this is merely part of Zero’s plan for nationalized health care. But, even with all these stories about lost coverage, sky high premiums, deductibles and copays, there is no march on the DC. There is no outcry from the people.

Perhaps the sheeple are really just lemmings and mindless of the pending precipice that spells the doom of this grand experiment.

Perhaps we are due to write the dirge.


15 posted on 12/12/2013 7:17:04 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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"The administration strongly encouraged insurance companies to let new subscribers go outside their networks of doctors and hospitals and refill prescriptions for drugs not on their lists of approved medications. "

Unbelievable! They pass laws changing the rules on these companies, give them a short time to comply, and then put public pressure on them to act in a way that is not in their own self interest.

This is clearly statism. It's unconstitutional in many ways.

19 posted on 12/12/2013 7:26:18 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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This reminds me of the '08 crash which happened because Gov't was pushing banks to issue loans to people who couldn't afford to pay them back.

Now the Gov't is pushing insurance companies to do the same thing.

20 posted on 12/12/2013 7:34:29 PM PST by what's up
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In case anybody thought we don’t have government run healthcare yet.


23 posted on 12/12/2013 10:16:29 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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It’s really not that uncommon for insurers to do this as long as the application date fell within a no lapse of coverage period and you pay the premiums retroactively. The application date vs. the date all members on a policy are covered can take six weeks these days. You need certificates of birth and marriage license, certificates of credible coverage from previous insurer, and any COBRA letters qualifying you for an out of open enrollment period entry to the plan.


24 posted on 12/12/2013 10:22:01 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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The administration strongly encouraged insurance companies to let new subscribers go outside their networks of doctors and hospitals and refill prescriptions for drugs not on their lists of approved medications.

So doctors are to treat people they aren't contracted to be paid for? Maybe the doctor should extract payment from the patient who could be reimbursed by Insurance/Obamacare. Yep that would work. Same goes for non-formulary drugs.

These DC people don't understand how it works.

26 posted on 12/12/2013 10:38:44 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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Chinese fire drill.


27 posted on 12/12/2013 10:45:40 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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I’m thinking that if insurance companies do these things, they will be breaking more than one State insurance law.

But I reserve the right to be wrong.


28 posted on 12/13/2013 3:26:38 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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Surely they know that those providers OUTSIDE the network have not negotiated the prices and will charge the insurance companies a small fortune.

Thus, the insurance companies won’t do it. The providers KNOW the insurance companies won’t do it. Next up? Single payer!


32 posted on 12/13/2013 10:10:22 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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