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Posted on 11/28/2013 9:45:56 AM PST by Army Air Corps
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China has sent warplanes to its newly declared air defence zone in the East China Sea, state media reports.
The vast zone, announced last week, covers territory claimed by China, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.
China has said all planes transiting the zone must file flight plans and identify themselves, or face "defensive emergency measures".
But Japan, South Korea and the US have all since flown military aircraft through the area.
The new dispute in an already tense region has raised concerns it could escalate into an unplanned military incident.
China's state news agency Xinhua quoted air force spokesman Col Shen Jinke as saying several fighter jets and an early warning aircraft had been deployed to carry out routine patrols as "a defensive measure and in line with international common practices".
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Send our war planes over the area without announcement and if threatened shoot the Chinese down.
This is NOT going to end well. Interesting by ones, indeed.
Did GayMuzzie ASK them to do this? With HIM no question is 100% crazy.
The term for the B 52 China action is wagging the dog
The Obama dog is a chihuahua and the world laughs
Interesting TIMES. blasted spell-check...!
We just threw Israel and SA overboard on behalf of Iran, which did invade and occupy a US Embassy.
This Chinese question of “Does the US/Japan Security Treaty really MEAN anything..?” Is a completely fair one.
I hear that Iran has been flying their new super secret stealth fighter through that Chinese zone several times a day. That’ll cook General Tso’s Chicken.
Sure, but they’ll be back in an hour...
“China sends warplanes to newly declared air zone”
Too late. Their “air zone” is already a joke.
Sure am glad we stopped production of the F22 right about now.
“The Prince of Japan has begun a six month study of the rare Sand Jumper Crab in the remote Senkaku Islands, supported by 100 MANPADs porters from the JSDF...”
Yes, a shooting war with China where resident Obama is running things will improve the situation for everyone...
oh boy, this could get interesting
So? WWIII is about on us now. Might as well get it over.
China is a day late and we’re a dollar short.
oy vey, and with the new rules of engagement?
Boy would I like to see the legions of guardian angels surrounding our carrier groups! come to think of it, I wonder who gets the underwater detail. Flaming power of God underwater, cool image.
Remember: Biden is scheduled for a big Asian trip next week.
The timing of all this is meant to be provocative.
Looks like China upped the ante.
Yesterday Obama sent 2 jets.
China responds by sending several fighter jets and an early warning aircraft.
This would be more like the border clashes China has had with the Soviets, India and Vietnam rather than WWII. I expect it wouldn't escalate to the level of the Korean War, since these would be air and naval clashes. It's a chance for the Chinese to blood their air and naval assets while giving us the opportunity to find out just how well they've copied our technology, and whether they've come up with creative variations we hadn't thought of. Once you look at the map at the BBC link, it's clear this is the kind of massive land grab by a great power that we thought had gone out of style after WWII. History isn't dead - it was just slumbering.
So if WW3 starts with China...do we have to pay them back?
A couple serious questions.
1. Do we have anti aircraft missiles which can be launched from a submerged submarine, and
2. Is the Nike Hercules still deployed on Okinawa?
No ... after we bomb them into oblivion - then we’ll I have a “Marshall Plan” for China.
In the course of WWII, we seized German patents and property stateside, so it's possible we'd zero out their Treasury bond holdings, once we discovered that the identity of the ultimate holders was the Chinese government.
Can we please bring back manufacturing to America, and stop building up the world’s most populous nation?
This isn’t new. China likes to do this kind of thing every so often. Asians love skirmishing.
See the Hainan Island Incident for the last time they got silly.
Government bonds are a special case. Even during the age of monarchs, kingdoms sought to avoid stiffing their creditors because that would affect their future ability to borrow. The thinking among lenders seems to be that if you renege for one reason, you'll renege for any reason.
1. Yes but it is a prototype.
At one little-known juncture the PRC evenClaimed that OKINAWA also rightly belongs to China. That one really, really surprised me.
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Chinese territorial expansion has involved continually annexing border states. It starts with a tributary state relationship, and the imposition of puppet rulers and ends with an invasion, when the puppet ruler decides he's not China's plaything. When successful, these invasions result in new provinces. We tend to assume that the Chinese are playing by the rules set by Western experiences up to and including WWII. I think they've been playing by Chinese rules all along, and have merely been biding their time. And the principal Chinese rule is that he who has the muscle makes the rules or as Thucydides put it: "Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." Just because you've been nice to the dragon doesn't mean the dragon will respond in kind.
Wifey and I are set to cruise thru there next fall! health willing, of course.
Should be interesting to get the Captain’s instructions in case of conflict in the vicinity. Geneva rules will apply, I’m sure.
and Yes, it is a shame about the F-22.
Yes, That Chinese edition of Photoshop clone function is a bit repetitive.
Imagine the pantheon of gods that are deployed to the area. I’m wondering if Mars, being the war god, is getting excited.
That converted Russian jump carrier is actually on sea trials now and the Chicoms showed some pics of it maneuvering on CCTV9 just last night. Those jets do have enough horsepower to waddle off the jump deck. But there is no catapult, the planes don’t look to have tail hooks, and the deck doesn’t appear to have arresting gear. The planes don’t look to be jump jets so it seems like they are one-trick ponies. If the Chicoms actually try to “flex” this could all get pretty funny before anybody gets hurt.
You got it right. This is a primary reason for conflicts between China and Japan going back many hundreds of years. China continually demanding tribute from Korea, and Japan intervening against China. (Japan also sought tribute from Korea.) China also wanted Japan as a tributary state, but Japan resisted. The nations who resisted, continued as independent states. China has never given up on swallowing Korea, Japan, Vietnam, etc.
Actually China does have a somewhat plausible claim to Okinawa. The kings of the Ryukyu Islands pledged loyalty to BOTH the Japanese and Chinese Emperors historically, playing them both off against one another. That’s the basis for the historic claim by both countries to Okinawa. In reality, the islands were self governing until relatively recently.
At bottom, just about every country has a plausible claim to large chunks of land in neighboring countries. The Austronesian people of the Malay archipelago (Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia) have a claim to southern China, from which their ancestors were turfed thousands of years ago.
No doubt the Communist Chinese military are being shown videos of gay days being celebrated in the Pentagon, with leaders like Pelosi and Obama grinning..
Get a load this drunken chicken coop...
The Communist Chinese must be rolling on the floor...
Who are those in D.C. going to get to fight and die for them in a big real war?
Are they going to round up millions of illegal aliens and force them into the army? They'd have better luck juggling chain saws.
These a$$holes can't even protect or defend our own borders for cripes sake.
I envy you. Here’s to you doing just that.
Yes, Geneva rules are something our enemies never seem to be quite in touch with. We’re expected to comply though. We’re so thoughtful.
Thanks for the note of agreement on the F-22.