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China sends warplanes to newly declared air zone
BBC ^ | 28 November 2013 | BBC

Posted on 11/28/2013 9:45:56 AM PST by Army Air Corps

The zone includes a groups of islands known as Diaoyu in Chinese and Senkaku by Japan Continue reading the main story Related Stories Tensions rise across region Watch Viewpoints: China air zone tensions Why China air zone raises risk

China has sent warplanes to its newly declared air defence zone in the East China Sea, state media reports.

The vast zone, announced last week, covers territory claimed by China, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.

China has said all planes transiting the zone must file flight plans and identify themselves, or face "defensive emergency measures".

But Japan, South Korea and the US have all since flown military aircraft through the area.

The new dispute in an already tense region has raised concerns it could escalate into an unplanned military incident.

China's state news agency Xinhua quoted air force spokesman Col Shen Jinke as saying several fighter jets and an early warning aircraft had been deployed to carry out routine patrols as "a defensive measure and in line with international common practices".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Japan
KEYWORDS: adiz; china; chinajapan; tacky; taquiyya
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1 posted on 11/28/2013 9:45:56 AM PST by Army Air Corps
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To: TigersEye

Pei-Ping!


2 posted on 11/28/2013 9:46:19 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Send our war planes over the area without announcement and if threatened shoot the Chinese down.


3 posted on 11/28/2013 9:50:19 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Army Air Corps

This is NOT going to end well. Interesting by ones, indeed.

Did GayMuzzie ASK them to do this? With HIM no question is 100% crazy.


4 posted on 11/28/2013 9:50:46 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Army Air Corps

The term for the B 52 China action is wagging the dog

The Obama dog is a chihuahua and the world laughs


5 posted on 11/28/2013 9:51:32 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Army Air Corps

6 posted on 11/28/2013 9:51:48 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: gaijin

Interesting TIMES. blasted spell-check...!


7 posted on 11/28/2013 9:54:56 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Army Air Corps
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8 posted on 11/28/2013 9:59:36 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Army Air Corps

We just threw Israel and SA overboard on behalf of Iran, which did invade and occupy a US Embassy.

This Chinese question of “Does the US/Japan Security Treaty really MEAN anything..?” Is a completely fair one.


9 posted on 11/28/2013 9:59:55 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Jeff Head

Ping!


10 posted on 11/28/2013 10:05:13 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

I hear that Iran has been flying their new super secret stealth fighter through that Chinese zone several times a day. That’ll cook General Tso’s Chicken.


11 posted on 11/28/2013 10:06:20 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Sure, but they’ll be back in an hour...


12 posted on 11/28/2013 10:07:55 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: nuconvert

Ping.


13 posted on 11/28/2013 10:10:37 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

“China sends warplanes to newly declared air zone”

Too late. Their “air zone” is already a joke.


14 posted on 11/28/2013 10:13:44 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Army Air Corps

Sure am glad we stopped production of the F22 right about now.


15 posted on 11/28/2013 10:13:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Army Air Corps

“The Prince of Japan has begun a six month study of the rare Sand Jumper Crab in the remote Senkaku Islands, supported by 100 MANPADs porters from the JSDF...”


16 posted on 11/28/2013 10:15:35 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Logical me

Yes, a shooting war with China where resident Obama is running things will improve the situation for everyone...


17 posted on 11/28/2013 10:18:48 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Army Air Corps

oh boy, this could get interesting


18 posted on 11/28/2013 10:22:33 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Caipirabob

So? WWIII is about on us now. Might as well get it over.


19 posted on 11/28/2013 10:25:17 AM PST by Logical me
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To: gaijin
Did GayMuzzie ASK them to do this? With HIM no question is 100% crazy.
20 posted on 11/28/2013 10:28:28 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11) Hey, Harry Reid.. 1-800-318-2596!)
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To: Army Air Corps

China is a day late and we’re a dollar short.


21 posted on 11/28/2013 10:28:42 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Logical me

oy vey, and with the new rules of engagement?

Boy would I like to see the legions of guardian angels surrounding our carrier groups! come to think of it, I wonder who gets the underwater detail. Flaming power of God underwater, cool image.


22 posted on 11/28/2013 10:29:46 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Dick Bachert

interesting wake.


23 posted on 11/28/2013 10:33:01 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Army Air Corps
The Chinese are betting that President Jarrett will back down, and that she won't repeat the B-52 flyover.

Remember: Biden is scheduled for a big Asian trip next week.

The timing of all this is meant to be provocative.

24 posted on 11/28/2013 10:33:06 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: RayChuang88; staytrue; Tainan; PGR88; 12Gauge687; AmericanInTokyo

ping


25 posted on 11/28/2013 10:34:38 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Looks like China upped the ante.

Yesterday Obama sent 2 jets.

China responds by sending several fighter jets and an early warning aircraft.


26 posted on 11/28/2013 10:38:08 AM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: Army Air Corps
This might end up being a nuclear-armed version of the Gulf of Sidra incident.
27 posted on 11/28/2013 10:38:46 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Caipirabob
Yes, a shooting war with China where resident Obama is running things will improve the situation for everyone...

This would be more like the border clashes China has had with the Soviets, India and Vietnam rather than WWII. I expect it wouldn't escalate to the level of the Korean War, since these would be air and naval clashes. It's a chance for the Chinese to blood their air and naval assets while giving us the opportunity to find out just how well they've copied our technology, and whether they've come up with creative variations we hadn't thought of. Once you look at the map at the BBC link, it's clear this is the kind of massive land grab by a great power that we thought had gone out of style after WWII. History isn't dead - it was just slumbering.

28 posted on 11/28/2013 10:46:10 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

So if WW3 starts with China...do we have to pay them back?


29 posted on 11/28/2013 10:48:54 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Army Air Corps

A couple serious questions.
1. Do we have anti aircraft missiles which can be launched from a submerged submarine, and
2. Is the Nike Hercules still deployed on Okinawa?

Thanks


30 posted on 11/28/2013 10:52:33 AM PST by Rannug
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To: hattend

No ... after we bomb them into oblivion - then we’ll I have a “Marshall Plan” for China.


31 posted on 11/28/2013 10:52:39 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: hattend

No.


32 posted on 11/28/2013 10:53:59 AM PST by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation sucks.)
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To: hattend
So if WW3 starts with China...do we have to pay them back?

In the course of WWII, we seized German patents and property stateside, so it's possible we'd zero out their Treasury bond holdings, once we discovered that the identity of the ultimate holders was the Chinese government.

33 posted on 11/28/2013 10:54:07 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Can we please bring back manufacturing to America, and stop building up the world’s most populous nation?


34 posted on 11/28/2013 10:57:33 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Army Air Corps

This isn’t new. China likes to do this kind of thing every so often. Asians love skirmishing.

See the Hainan Island Incident for the last time they got silly.


35 posted on 11/28/2013 10:58:33 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: hattend
So if WW3 starts with China...do we have to pay them back?

Government bonds are a special case. Even during the age of monarchs, kingdoms sought to avoid stiffing their creditors because that would affect their future ability to borrow. The thinking among lenders seems to be that if you renege for one reason, you'll renege for any reason.

36 posted on 11/28/2013 10:58:41 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Rannug

1. Yes but it is a prototype.

2. No.


37 posted on 11/28/2013 10:59:14 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Rannug

At one little-known juncture the PRC evenClaimed that OKINAWA also rightly belongs to China. That one really, really surprised me.


38 posted on 11/28/2013 11:02:49 AM PST by gaijin
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39 posted on 11/28/2013 11:07:54 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: gaijin
At one little-known juncture the PRC evenClaimed that OKINAWA also rightly belongs to China. That one really, really surprised me.

Chinese territorial expansion has involved continually annexing border states. It starts with a tributary state relationship, and the imposition of puppet rulers and ends with an invasion, when the puppet ruler decides he's not China's plaything. When successful, these invasions result in new provinces. We tend to assume that the Chinese are playing by the rules set by Western experiences up to and including WWII. I think they've been playing by Chinese rules all along, and have merely been biding their time. And the principal Chinese rule is that he who has the muscle makes the rules or as Thucydides put it: "Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." Just because you've been nice to the dragon doesn't mean the dragon will respond in kind.

40 posted on 11/28/2013 11:15:56 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Wifey and I are set to cruise thru there next fall! health willing, of course.

Should be interesting to get the Captain’s instructions in case of conflict in the vicinity. Geneva rules will apply, I’m sure.

and Yes, it is a shame about the F-22.


41 posted on 11/28/2013 11:18:44 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, That Chinese edition of Photoshop clone function is a bit repetitive.


42 posted on 11/28/2013 11:46:21 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: huldah1776

Imagine the pantheon of gods that are deployed to the area. I’m wondering if Mars, being the war god, is getting excited.


43 posted on 11/28/2013 11:50:46 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: Dick Bachert

That converted Russian jump carrier is actually on sea trials now and the Chicoms showed some pics of it maneuvering on CCTV9 just last night. Those jets do have enough horsepower to waddle off the jump deck. But there is no catapult, the planes don’t look to have tail hooks, and the deck doesn’t appear to have arresting gear. The planes don’t look to be jump jets so it seems like they are one-trick ponies. If the Chicoms actually try to “flex” this could all get pretty funny before anybody gets hurt.


44 posted on 11/28/2013 11:54:11 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Zhang Fei
It starts with a tributary state relationship, and the imposition of puppet rulers and ends with an invasion, when the puppet ruler decides he's not China's plaything.

You got it right. This is a primary reason for conflicts between China and Japan going back many hundreds of years. China continually demanding tribute from Korea, and Japan intervening against China. (Japan also sought tribute from Korea.) China also wanted Japan as a tributary state, but Japan resisted. The nations who resisted, continued as independent states. China has never given up on swallowing Korea, Japan, Vietnam, etc.

45 posted on 11/28/2013 12:03:04 PM PST by roadcat
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To: gaijin

Actually China does have a somewhat plausible claim to Okinawa. The kings of the Ryukyu Islands pledged loyalty to BOTH the Japanese and Chinese Emperors historically, playing them both off against one another. That’s the basis for the historic claim by both countries to Okinawa. In reality, the islands were self governing until relatively recently.


46 posted on 11/28/2013 12:09:19 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Actually China does have a somewhat plausible claim to Okinawa. The kings of the Ryukyu Islands pledged loyalty to BOTH the Japanese and Chinese Emperors historically, playing them both off against one another. That’s the basis for the historic claim by both countries to Okinawa. In reality, the islands were self governing until relatively recently.

At bottom, just about every country has a plausible claim to large chunks of land in neighboring countries. The Austronesian people of the Malay archipelago (Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia) have a claim to southern China, from which their ancestors were turfed thousands of years ago.

47 posted on 11/28/2013 12:22:22 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Logical me; Army Air Corps

No doubt the Communist Chinese military are being shown videos of gay days being celebrated in the Pentagon, with leaders like Pelosi and Obama grinning..

Get a load this drunken chicken coop...

The Communist Chinese must be rolling on the floor...

Who are those in D.C. going to get to fight and die for them in a big real war?

Are they going to round up millions of illegal aliens and force them into the army? They'd have better luck juggling chain saws.

These a$$holes can't even protect or defend our own borders for cripes sake.

48 posted on 11/28/2013 12:24:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NormsRevenge

I envy you. Here’s to you doing just that.

Yes, Geneva rules are something our enemies never seem to be quite in touch with. We’re expected to comply though. We’re so thoughtful.

Thanks for the note of agreement on the F-22.


49 posted on 11/28/2013 12:34:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Army Air Corps
This is NOT going to end well. It won't take much for a Japan Airlines or All-Nippon Airways airliner flying between Tokyo/Osaka and Taipei to get fired upon by an air-to-air missile from a Chinese fighter at the rate things are going....
50 posted on 11/28/2013 12:58:04 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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