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1 posted on 11/27/2013 3:29:16 PM PST by navysealdad
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Jeez, and he started off so well.


2 posted on 11/27/2013 3:30:36 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: navysealdad

I definitely hope this is not true.

State-controlled economies cause poverty and suffering.


3 posted on 11/27/2013 3:32:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: navysealdad
Without capitalists, there is nothing for redistributionists/Communists to redistribute.
5 posted on 11/27/2013 3:32:49 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: navysealdad

Chances that anyone here will read all 50, 000 words to find out? Chances that someone here will claim they’ve read all 50, 000 words?


7 posted on 11/27/2013 3:34:59 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: navysealdad

No capitalism,no church.


8 posted on 11/27/2013 3:35:25 PM PST by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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“While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules. Debt and the accumulation of interest also make it difficult for countries to realize the potential of their own economies and keep citizens from enjoying their real purchasing power. To all this we can add widespread corruption and self-serving tax evasion, which have taken on worldwide dimensions. The thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule... With this in mind, I encourage financial experts and political leaders to ponder the words of one of the sages of antiquity: “Not to share one’s wealth with the poor is to steal from them and to take away their livelihood. It is not our own goods which we hold, but theirs”.

” Welfare projects, which meet certain urgent needs, should be considered merely temporary responses...We can no longer trust in the unseen forces and the invisible hand of the market. Growth in justice requires more than economic growth, while presupposing such growth: it requires decisions, programmes, mechanisms and processes specifically geared to a better distribution of income, the creation of sources of employment and an integral promotion of the poor which goes beyond a simple welfare mentality. I am far from proposing an irresponsible populism, but the economy can no longer turn to remedies that are a new poison, such as attempting to increase profits by reducing the work force and thereby adding to the ranks of the excluded.

205. I ask God to give us more politicians capable of sincere and effective dialogue aimed at healing the deepest roots – and not simply the appearances – of the evils in our world! Politics, though often denigrated, remains a lofty vocation and one of the highest forms of charity, inasmuch as it seeks the common good.[174] We need to be convinced that charity “is the principle not only of micro-relationships (with friends, with family members or within small groups) but also of macro-relationships (social, economic and political ones)”.[175] I beg the Lord to grant us more politicians who are genuinely disturbed by the state of society, the people, the lives of the poor! It is vital that government leaders and financial leaders take heed and broaden their horizons, working to ensure that all citizens have dignified work, education and healthcare...

... Indeed, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find local solutions for enormous global problems which overwhelm local politics with difficulties to resolve. If we really want to achieve a healthy world economy, what is needed at this juncture of history is a more efficient way of interacting which, with due regard for the sovereignty of each nation, ensures the economic well-being of all countries, not just of a few.”

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html

For anyone who wants to read it.


10 posted on 11/27/2013 3:35:43 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: navysealdad

He and the rest of the Catholic hierarcy. Bunch of socialists who are too short sighted to understand which side their bread is buttered on.


17 posted on 11/27/2013 3:39:41 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Social Justice: “We’re telling you to do what we say Jesus said and having the government make sure you do it.” -TZ

21 posted on 11/27/2013 3:42:34 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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“...some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system.”

This is very likely a case of a poor translation or they are taking Pope Francis’ words out of context.


23 posted on 11/27/2013 3:43:17 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: navysealdad

Hotshot parishioner: “That was a damned fine sermon Father! I thought you really kicked a**!”
Father Murphy: “Well, really, I appreciate your enthusiasm but I can’t say that I care for, um, you see, the words are a little ... “

HP: “In fact I liked it so damned much, I just put a check for five grand in the plate!”

FM: “No s***?”


26 posted on 11/27/2013 3:48:18 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: navysealdad

This is the posting I’ve been waiting for. Rush Limbaugh railed on it in his first and second hour. Then receieved a message it was miss-interpredted.


27 posted on 11/27/2013 3:49:45 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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Caesar=====Caesar.......God=======God.


31 posted on 11/27/2013 3:54:26 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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What ELSE is Pope Francis ignorant of?...

I mean if the Pope does not know capitalism makes peoples lives better and socialism makes peoples live WORSE...

WHat else does he NOT know about?..


35 posted on 11/27/2013 3:58:35 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: navysealdad

Francis is a fraud.


36 posted on 11/27/2013 3:59:20 PM PST by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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“We need to be convinced that charity “is the principle not only of micro-relationships (with friends, with family members or within small groups) but also of macro-relationships (social, economic and political ones)”-

I have spent a lot of time defending what this Pope says because a lot of it sounds like the Church I grew up in - part of which was to love they neighbor and help the poor - out of our own pockets. I have to disagree with him on this point though - charity is not the job of government - the job of government is to create the conditions by which people are then free to pursue happiness (to the greater extent unimpinged).

I tend to agree with him that what we call free markets have become tyrannical - not because they are free however but because they are far from it and are manipulated by people with more wealth and influence than we can ever even contemplate. It’s funny but those same people, the rich ones, once they become rich tend to display left leanings but they are more about control than any sort of altruistic notions and the last thing they want is a free market when they can manipulate them and not risk losses.

Mel


37 posted on 11/27/2013 3:59:25 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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**POPE FRANCIS ATTACKS CAPITALISM, CALLS FOR STATE CONTROL**

This is a false headline. He calls for all to stand abortion and for the poor.

Have mercy.

I can’t believe that someone at Breitbart is this much of a liberal.


38 posted on 11/27/2013 4:00:16 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: navysealdad; nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...

Catholic Ping for the truth.


41 posted on 11/27/2013 4:01:41 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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So Gov. Sarah Palin was right again?


42 posted on 11/27/2013 4:05:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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anti capitalist
be tolorent of islamics
Wow what next?


43 posted on 11/27/2013 4:07:31 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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Francis isn’t the first pope to embrace leftist economics.

“Papal Promotion of Collective Ownership and Theft”
by Richard Bennett (former Roman Catholic priest) and Robert J. Nicholson

“The present pope, Benedict XVI, and his Vatican system teach that private property is not personal as such, but belongs to all people. His predecessor, Pope John Paul II stated, “Private property, in fact, is under a ‘social mortgage,’ which means that it has an intrinsically social function, based upon and justified precisely by the principle of the universal destination of goods.” The principle of “the universal destination of goods” is clearly observed in what the present pope endorses in the second part of his encyclical entitled “God is Love.” Benedict wholly sanctions the principle of the universal ownership of all goods embalmed in the writings of popes Leo XIII, Pius XI, John XXIII, Paul VI, and John Paul II. The phrase, “all goods,” includes not only the goods found in nature but manufactured goods as well. As John Paul II stated, “The vast majority of people can have access to those goods which are intended for common use: both the goods of nature and manufactured goods.’’Another Vatican Council II document upholds the same principle of the “universal ownership of all goods” and emphatically teaches, “If one is in extreme necessity, he has the right to procure for himself what he needs out of the riches of others.”

follow the link to read the rest (it opens a PDF):

http://www.bereanbeacon.org/assets/articles/sorted/01_On_Catholicism/Papal_Economics.pdf


48 posted on 11/27/2013 4:16:22 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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