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Israel said to be working with Saudi Arabia on Iran strike plan
Times of Israel ^ | 17 Nov 2013 | Staff

Posted on 11/16/2013 8:55:54 PM PST by BlackVeil

Israel is working on coordinating plans for a possible military strike with Saudi Arabia, with Riyadh prepared to provide tactical support to Jerusalem, a British newspaper reported early Sunday.

The two countries have both united in worry that the West may come to terms with Iran ...

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombbombbombbombiran; iran; iraq; israel; israeliran; jordan; lebanon; military; nucleariran; saudiarabia; syria
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It all seems highly unlikely, and more examples of rumours and bluff. However, some writers who are Saudi watchers say that the sources, although anonymous, are real and high placed.
1 posted on 11/16/2013 8:55:54 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

IMO, it’s weird enough to be true. What the Israelis really need is forward basing, though - be interesting to see if and how the Saudis supply that.


2 posted on 11/16/2013 9:00:32 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

It’s a truism: politics makes strange bedfellows.


3 posted on 11/16/2013 9:03:34 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Slings and Arrows
weird enough to be true ...

That is quite a sound guiding sentiment, in Middle East politics ...

4 posted on 11/16/2013 9:05:49 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

ato say. The Saudis never do their own fighting.


5 posted on 11/16/2013 9:06:46 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BlackVeil

Must have been leaked from our administration with their close ties to the Saudis.


6 posted on 11/16/2013 9:09:25 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Bernard Marx

the enemy of my enemy is my friend


7 posted on 11/16/2013 9:11:31 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: BlackVeil

its amazing that our fly infested Belshazzar has presented such an incompetent appeasement toward the evil that is the leadership of Iran,

that this could actually be some new form of mideast reality taking shape,


8 posted on 11/16/2013 9:12:44 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: Bernard Marx; BlackVeil

Agreed, to both of you; e.g., in the First Gulf War we were allied with Syria, which was probably hiding Saddam’s WMDs.


9 posted on 11/16/2013 9:13:23 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: BlackVeil

There is a lot of bluff, bluster, psych warfare and covert operations involved in Israel’s handling of Iran because an overt military attack would cause military and diplomatic hostilities against Israel.

The truth about what’s really going on will come out in the
end.

We’ll know if Bibi Netanyahu is a Reagan or a Boehner on Iran and the Palestinian talks now going on alongside the Iran issue.


10 posted on 11/16/2013 9:14:44 PM PST by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN)
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To: captmar-vell
fly infested Belshazzar

Nice!

11 posted on 11/16/2013 9:15:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
What the Israelis really need is forward basing, though

Step 1: Saudi Arabia and Israel reach an agreement.
Step 2: The Saudis allow Israel to establish a secret airfield in the desert.
Step 3: Israel strikes Iran.
Step 4: The Saudis publicly condemn Israel.
Step 5: The Saudis privately congratulate Israel.

I wouldn't be surprised if Steps 1 and 2 were already in place.

12 posted on 11/16/2013 9:15:45 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: BlackVeil

We’ll be the last to know anything. I’m sure the world knows to keep Obama outta the loop.


13 posted on 11/16/2013 9:17:50 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Leaning Right

*chuckle* Yeah, that’s about how it’ll go down, IMO.


14 posted on 11/16/2013 9:19:00 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Bernard Marx

The Saudis are trying to get an increase in fuel usage by any means necessary. Military aircraft burn hundreds of gallons per hour. And it won’t be Saudi citizens coming home in pieces either.


15 posted on 11/16/2013 9:20:59 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name the illness that you have and Google it with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: BlackVeil
I want to see Obama’s face when he finds out, should this go down as reported!
16 posted on 11/16/2013 9:32:13 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: BlackVeil

It appears the Israelis may consider the Saudi’s a more reliable ally that the USA...


17 posted on 11/16/2013 9:35:25 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: BlackVeil

This is like the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.


18 posted on 11/16/2013 9:40:16 PM PST by Kennard
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To: montanajoe

“It appears the entire world may consider the Saudi’s a more reliable ally that the USA under the Obama administration...” - There.....Fixed it.


19 posted on 11/16/2013 9:57:43 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: BlackVeil

I don’t find this strange at all. The last thing Saudi Arabia wants is a nuclear armed Iran. Everyone on the planet is subject to blackmail then.

Terrorists getting nuclear tech direct from the terrorist state. Man, that is a worst case scenario if there very was one.


20 posted on 11/16/2013 10:02:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: BlackVeil

“It all seems highly unlikely, and more examples of rumours and bluff.”

The thing is (and no one seems to be mentioning this, I might add) — what happens if Obama’s “peace talks” fail?

Right now it is rumored Iran is 1-6 months from a bomb

Obama wants to “talk it out”

...so, what if we cant “talk it out”?

If the talks fail, doesn’t that kind of mean we ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO go to war? But who in their right mind thinks Obama will?

Israel & SA discussing this would only make sense in that case


21 posted on 11/16/2013 10:14:38 PM PST by Nahhh I Dont Think So
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To: BlackVeil

My memory of the Lebanese War a few years ago is that the Saudis were encouraging Israel to go all the way into the Bekaa Valley, to keep going until they had destroyed Hezbollah.

The Israelis, under Olmert, only pushed into Southern Lebanon. But it was one of the surprises of the war to see the Saudis giving Israel the green light to go go go. But understandable, since Hezbollah is Iran’s catspaw, and Iran is the country the Saudis fear most.

It just showed that the middle east is a bit more complicated than most people notice.


22 posted on 11/16/2013 10:20:21 PM PST by marron
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To: montanajoe

This may be a very good development and could save both Israel and the middle east from further disaster. Obama be damned.


23 posted on 11/16/2013 10:34:27 PM PST by bytesmith
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To: montanajoe

They are!


24 posted on 11/16/2013 10:39:24 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Leaning Right
Step 1: Saudi Arabia and Israel reach an agreement.

Step 2: The Saudis allow Israel to establish a secret airfield in the desert.

Step 3: Israel strikes Iran.

Step 4: The Saudis publicly condemn Israel.

Step 5: The Saudis privately congratulate Israel.

I wouldn't be surprised if Steps 1 and 2 were already in place.

There is no longer any such thing as a "secret airfield". With the number of Earth Observation Satellites working today images of any supposedly secret airfield in Saudi land would be in the possession of many countries already, not to mention the US satellites which would be very capable and very interested in new construction.

But, if the Saudis allowed Israel to use an existing airbase this might work out well.

Both Israel and Saudi Arabia use US equipment. Fly the right aircraft to SA ahead of time and with a little repainting it might be possible to convince anyone looking at a satellite image that those are Saudi planes on the ground, not Israeli.

Or, a few extra temporary hangers and a lot of stuff can be kept out of sight. The boys over there know a lot about large tents.

Fuel and everything else can be supplied through the existing facilities.

As you say, step 1. is probably done.

Step 2. ready and waiting.

Step 3. Maybe a little different than yours. SA does not actually attack, but does supply cover for Israeli planes. Fake sorties, radar from planes over the ocean, etc.

Step 4. SA condemns Israel, denies allowing overflight.

Step 5. As you say.

The big unknown: Can this be done with missiles/drones/cruise missiles instead of aircraft?

25 posted on 11/16/2013 10:40:57 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: BlackVeil

Obama will finally have the distraction he needs, and the US military will attack Iran to protect itself from retaliation from an Israeli strike.


26 posted on 11/16/2013 10:51:01 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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or could Saudi have interest because it is the leader of OPEC, which is one of the foundation stones of the USD. OPEC enforces that oil must be traded in USD

Iran Brokers oil to Russia in other than USD, so did Sadaam, so did Ghadaffy, and Syria

Seems that anyone who dares mess with OPEC or the USD gets wacked,

27 posted on 11/16/2013 11:33:57 PM PST by KTM rider
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To: BlackVeil

The Saudis are out shopping for nuclear weapons because they no longer trust America for their defense. They fear attack from Iran. They have more in common with Israel than they do with Obama ruled America.


28 posted on 11/16/2013 11:54:47 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Thunder90
US military will attack Iran...

Ø's military may appear on the surface to attack Iran. Effectively, though, Ø's military will attack Israel, as Ø is already at war via various proxies against Israel.

29 posted on 11/17/2013 12:03:24 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: CurlyDave

The US Miltary sold 30 Super Bunker Penetrators / Busters to Israel last year.


30 posted on 11/17/2013 12:04:42 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: ToastedHead

They will need permission to fly over Saudi Arabia in any case because Obumbo will not let them fly over Iraq. A re-fueling station in Northern Saudi Arabia would be handy as well. A quick raid—backed up with sub launched missles, would do the trick. And set the Iranians back 10 years. still, this could all be rumors to cover some other attack—something simple and direct. Even troops on the ground with explosives? An attack on their power grid. Maybe a way to cause the reactors to go all Chernoble or something?


31 posted on 11/17/2013 12:13:51 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Leaning Right
I wouldn't be surprised if Steps 1 and 2 were already in place.

I would not be surprised. During my time in Kingdom, I watched Haliburton and Schlumberger set up camps and airfields overnight for oil operations. With a few changes, a forward operations base can be set up with logistical support in 24 hours. That part is believable.
32 posted on 11/17/2013 12:30:46 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
They will need permission to fly over Saudi Arabia in any case because Obumbo will not let them fly over Iraq.

The petulant man-child has no say over that. Iraq is a {ahem}sovereign{snort} nation now.

33 posted on 11/17/2013 1:03:41 AM PST by Sarajevo
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To: BlackVeil

Well Putin is once again working with Egypt so pretty much anythings possible in the International Events today. Obama certainly isn’t taking any stands except against the citizens of our own nation!

Also, if Saudi is working with Israel the Saudi’s would not broadcast it. However I wouldn’t put it past Iran to put that out there...masters at propaganda they are....


34 posted on 11/17/2013 1:41:58 AM PST by caww
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To: Bernard Marx
Strange things happen when the US surrenders and pulls out of the premier world leadership position and lets things just “happen”. Vacuums are filled by Russia, Iran, China and bad guys all over the planet.
Thank you Pres. Obama for voluntarily unraveling US power...
35 posted on 11/17/2013 3:20:51 AM PST by Netz
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To: Leaning Right

You forgot Step 6:

Israel gets pounded by Arab states...Saudi Arabia applauds that too.


36 posted on 11/17/2013 3:23:12 AM PST by Netz
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To: BlackVeil

It would be in the interests of both Israel and Saudi Arabia to work together against iran.
Cause no one can trust this poser Marxist punk obammy.


37 posted on 11/17/2013 3:26:20 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Nahhh I Dont Think So

> Obama wants to “talk it out”

Translation: Obama will provide Iran enriched uranium if they promise to use it to build bombs to eradicate Israel from the face of the earth to accomplish his paymaster’s wishes. Shhh just don’t tell anyone where you got it from...


38 posted on 11/17/2013 4:46:33 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: BlackVeil

No, this is really old news.

The alliance has been leaked for several years. Prior to the series of invo;untary set backs to the Iranian programs, Saudi Arabia leaked the fact that IAF planes could use Saudi air space and land at a specified base thought to ne Al Batin


39 posted on 11/17/2013 4:49:39 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade; Sarajevo

Iraq doesn’t have the aircraft to control their airspace. That’s why they want the F 16s. That’s why Malaki was here a few days ago.


40 posted on 11/17/2013 5:54:21 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: DoughtyOne
"The last thing Saudi Arabia wants is a nuclear armed Iran.

They want the sanctions to stay in place to keep the Iranian oil off the world market.

41 posted on 11/17/2013 5:59:52 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: BlackVeil

I not so sure it’s a bluff. Saudi Arabia and Iran hate each other. It’s a tribal thing, and has existed for centuries. Saudi Arabia is Arab and Sunni; Iran is Persian and Shiite. They despise each other.


42 posted on 11/17/2013 6:31:42 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Pelham

The BBC reported a week or so ago that Saudi Arabia bought a nuke or two from Pakistan.


43 posted on 11/17/2013 6:35:17 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“What the Israelis really need is forward basing,”

Maybe not. Overflight permission and in air refueling could be enough. Do the Saudis have KC130 air tankers?


44 posted on 11/17/2013 6:43:23 AM PST by Hugin ( More firepower1)
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To: BlackVeil
Could be a bid while the negotiations are still underway.

With some good luck, they are letting it out and hoping it is seen as a potential influence, and then it will really happen.

45 posted on 11/17/2013 6:55:16 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Slings and Arrows

If I remember correctly, there was an article saying how Azerbaijan allowed Israeli planes into its airspace.


46 posted on 11/17/2013 7:18:51 AM PST by Patriot95
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To: BlackVeil

Hollande and Netanyahu to consider forming a joint French-Israeli-Arab front against Iran

http://www.debka.com/article/23449/Hollande-and-Netanyahu-to-consider-forming-a-joint-French-Israeli-Arab-front-against-Iran


47 posted on 11/17/2013 7:23:34 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Excerpt from my link above:

French President Francois Hollande’s first visit to Israel.

French President Francois Holland and Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius arrive in Jerusalem Sunday, Nov. 17. Their talks with Israel’s leaders are likely to determine how France, Israel and Saudi Arabia respond to the Obama administration’s current Middle East moves, with critical effect on the next round of nuclear talks taking place in Geneva Wednesday, Nov. 20 between six world powers and Iran.

France will be given the option of aligning with the Middle East powers - Israel, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Egypt - which challenge President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry’s race for détente with Tehran.”


48 posted on 11/17/2013 7:24:38 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: BlackVeil

Netanyahu aides deny report Obama refused to take premier’s phone calls

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Netanyahu-aides-deny-report-Obama-refused-to-take-premiers-phone-calls-331979

EXCERPT: “Aides to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu are denying a report in a Kuwaiti newspaper which claims that President Barack Obama refused to accept the Israeli premier’s telephone calls over the weekend, Israel Radio reported on Sunday.”


49 posted on 11/17/2013 7:31:17 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: BlackVeil

Hollande in Israel: France won’t yield in opposing Iran nuclear weapons

http://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News/Hollande-receives-warm-welcome-in-Israel-as-Iran-deal-looms-large-331990


50 posted on 11/17/2013 7:32:35 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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