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Fanning: Air Force Having Trouble Keeping Pilots, and Pay Isnít the Problem
Defense One ^ | 11-14-2013 | Tom Shoop

Posted on 11/16/2013 9:13:16 AM PST by Sequoyah101

The Air Force is offering big bonuses to keep its pilots in the service, but they’re not taking them because budget constraints are forcing the service to limit both current flying hours and opportunities to fly the next generation of aircraft,...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 113th; airforce; bhodod; defensespending; fkyinghours; gay; nextgenerationplanes; pilots; usaf
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It also isn't JUST flying hours. A lot of the reason pilots are leaving first chance they get is working for this queer, Eric Fanning. A peace time military is bad enough though peace is what we all desire.

At least there is some recognition that morale is horrible but this queer won't do what is needed to fix it and IT is not all about money. Much of it could be fixed by allowing the air crews to train for their mission and leave all the other crap out. It could also be helped along by promoting leaders in whom the air crews have confidence and letting them all just do their main job.

This asshat tool, Eric Fanning, is one of the highest ranking queers in this administration, highest ranking admitted queer in the DoD. He was put in place to make the USAF into a gay house or destroy it. He is destroying it. He is a humiliating insult to the MEN who fly combat airplanes into harms way for a living and obastard intends for him to be an insult to them. Most would leave in disgust right now if they were not indentured. Make no mistake, they are indentured for at least 11 long years as pilots. I believe most or many are looking for any way out they can find. They are balancing though and hoping somehow there will be better days one day and so they are trying to play the game to preserve their chosen profession and careers that they have given so much to.

Old airplanes, failed programs like the F-35 and air tanker replacement, reduced flying hours, force feeding of social engineering every day (it isn't enough to just keep your mouth shut, you are expected to celebrate, endorse and encourage the queer and feminist agenda), nanny state type restrictions on their every action, constant threats of reductions in pay, benefits, mission, daunting and burgeoning paperwork mostly just for its own sake that is done by flight crews because there are no enlisted people to do it. Flying is what they joined to do and it no longer offsets the huge part of the job that just sucks.

Most would chuck it I think but making matters worse they are trapped. It is like being in prison. What they are in is not what they agreed to do 8 or 10 years ago when they signed on and they won't be so deceitful to recommend their profession to younger MEN. It is hard work flying combat aircraft and there has to be a desirable reward for the effort... there is less and less and less every day now.

Like everything else in this administration in these days it is all about politics, a communist ideology and a liberal Godless social agenda.

1 posted on 11/16/2013 9:13:16 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101
if you're a man, how do you work for such a person as Fanning....really, the way the military is pushing homosexuality anymore, why would any red blooded American young man want to join?...

there's always been gay men in the military....they probably did just as good as heteros....but they kept their private lives private...

now its full scale open....who wants that?....

between obammy and hagel and fanning, why would any parent allow their kids to join the military?....we have to just divest ourselves of that corruption until someone of character comes along...

2 posted on 11/16/2013 9:18:45 AM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: Sequoyah101

Soviet Air Force, Hope and Change Perestroika Russia, 1989 Part Deux. Obamao is an American Mike Gorbachev.


3 posted on 11/16/2013 9:19:53 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Sequoyah101

Starting pay for airline pilots sucks, and jobs are pretty scarce. Not like it used to be.


4 posted on 11/16/2013 9:21:00 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Sequoyah101

When your Impostor-In-Chief is Nazifying the military what do you expect good and decent people in that organization to do?


5 posted on 11/16/2013 9:21:36 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: SeaHawkFan

And this is yet another reason the pilots are stuck. Sadly, they are not being told what valuable leadership and decision making skills they have or how to market them. Of course, the economy just plain sucks as well further adding to their fears of leaving and their frustration in being stuck.

Their work ethic and experience is impeccable. They are trained, conditioned and experienced to make 100% binding decisions in split seconds with minimal information and to live with all the consequences. They have the proven ability to learn and retain detailed and complex information that is fed to them from not just a fire hose but a water cannon. They are expected to not only learn but just about memorize a stack of operating manuals that would fill an 8’ table just to fly one aircraft system. They manage enlisted men and other often higher ranking officers every day with relative aplomb. Yet they are not sure what value they can be on the outside of the USAF. I suppose this goes for many of our other young men of the military.

Sadly, they often come out to start a career over because so many on the outside don’t have a clue what they have done or are capable of. They are placed in the queue behind younger much less experienced people and kept behind them. They are older, much wiser and often much more intelligent but their younger “superiors” know this and do all they can to push them back down until they finally give up. Jealousy is an ugly thing.


6 posted on 11/16/2013 9:34:44 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101

You absolutely nailed Sequoyah!


7 posted on 11/16/2013 9:34:59 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: Sequoyah101
No pilots, no cans of whoopass dropping from the air (or freight, or intel, or equipment, or...).

0bama is doing a great job as CIC. Just ask the mullahs in Persia, or AQ in Syria, or Putin in Russia, or...

5.56mm

8 posted on 11/16/2013 9:41:05 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Sequoyah101
"...failed programs like the F-35..."

I get that you don't like this program, but spreading your own opinions around as "fact"only reflects on your credibility...poorly.

9 posted on 11/16/2013 9:46:58 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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“failed programs like the F-35”

Cost overruns and delays, yes. Failure?

The Marines say they love the F35B.


10 posted on 11/16/2013 9:50:49 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: rbmillerjr

“The Marines say they love the F35B.”

The Marines had better say it...or else. Zero will punish those that do not tow the official line.


11 posted on 11/16/2013 9:53:35 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: rbmillerjr; SZonian
You meant that for SZonian, right?

5.56mm

12 posted on 11/16/2013 9:53:41 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Sequoyah101

It isn’t just pilots. I am seeing all kinds of AF officers leave, mainly for the social engineering and political crap. Besides, most AF officers have technical skills that command nice salaries on the outside.


13 posted on 11/16/2013 9:54:31 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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Is it a successful program then?

From a pilot’s perspective, it is probably not yet successful. I would think pilots would grade a program by the number of seats available to sit in.

According to LockheedMartin, they have only built just over 100.

So there are still not very many seats for a pilot to sit in.

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/press-releases/2013/july/130725ae_100th-f-35-in-final-production.html


14 posted on 11/16/2013 9:56:03 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: cherry

So when has the USAF ever been a military organization?

Signed: USN Retired


15 posted on 11/16/2013 10:05:02 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: M Kehoe; Sequoyah101

Sorry, meant for Sequoyah.


16 posted on 11/16/2013 10:08:27 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: Afterguard

And so it goes.


17 posted on 11/16/2013 10:09:13 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Afterguard
When was part of the USA dear sir.

HTB's Husband USA Retired

18 posted on 11/16/2013 10:09:35 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Afterguard
So when has the USAF ever been a military organization?

I was going to ping some Zoomies, but then I can't stay on for a mud wrestling contest.

And what is worse, I agree with you...

INCOMING!

5.56mm

19 posted on 11/16/2013 10:10:15 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: cherry

Have long suspected that much of the pomp and pageantry in any military originated with closeted gay — and often quite capable — soldiers.


20 posted on 11/16/2013 10:10:41 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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