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Yes, It’s a Trap.
Red State ^ | 11/14/2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 11/15/2013 4:43:25 AM PST by IbJensen

Since yesterday afternoon a bunch of good Republicans who’ve decided to put their faith in the man who banned the incandescent light bulb, have been telling me how wrong I am for thinking the Upton Plan is a trap.

Folks, it is a trap. You may not think it is a trap, but the Democrats are going to use it to turn the tables on the GOP

Certainly Upton and House Republican Leaders do not think it is a trap, but it is one the Democrats have flipped skillfully on the GOP.

First, understand that Upton is messaging legislation. It allows everyone in Congress to say they support people being able to keep their healthcare plans, but it lacks measures to force insurance companies to let people keep their plans. It is a paper tiger.

But Republicans are starting to pick up worried Democrat votes for the Upton legislation who feel they must stand for something with 2014 on the horizon.

So Upton will pass. It will be “bipartisan.”

Democrats, meanwhile, need to get Mary Landrieu and a host of other red state Democrats re-elected. The President’s law be damned, they want to save their Senate majority. Remember, Obamacare already has embedded in the law provisions bailing out insurance companies and the Democrats and Republicans have shown themselves perfectly comfortable bailing out businesses deemed “too big to fail” in the past. Insurance companies participating in the exchanges will be deemed “too big to fail” I guarantee. So the Democrats can hurt insurance companies and undermine their own exchanges, but the government will bail out the insurance companies affected under the terms of Obamacare as already written.

The House would send the Senate the Upton measure. The Senate Democrats will respond, “But Upton has not teeth. Landrieu has teeth.” The Senate will substitute Landrieu’s legislation for Upton’s, send it back to the House, and watch the GOP try to explain why they say their for letting people keep their health insurance plans, but will not actually force insurance companies to let people keep those plans.

Yet again, the GOP will be cast as the tool of insurance companies and Mary Landrieu as the savior of plans people already have. Republicans will cave. They’ll console themselves thinking Landrieu’s bill will undermine Obamacare and cause it to collapse.

Upton’s legislation by itself isn’t worth worrying about. But Upton passed with Landrieu’s bill still on the table gives the Democrats the offense back. Republicans will absolutely flub the response and, embarrassed, vote for Landrieu. If you don’t believe me, Fred Upton is open to Landrieu’s plan himself.

Lots of Republican pundits and folks at the NRSC are giddy thinking Landrieu will blow up Obamacare. No. It will deliver even quicker rate shock to Americans, but it will not stop Obamacare. Landrieu will do much harm, but it won’t somehow repeal or obstruct Obamacare.

The GOP is getting too clever by half. They need to just demand full repeal of Obamacare — not let Democrats like Landrieu save themselves while claiming to fix the unfixable.

Obamacare is not fixable. If anything, Landrieu shows just how unfixable it is.

In any event, this is all going to become academic as I expect the President, by the end of this week, to find some new way to claim he is saving people without Congress doing anything and then put the GOP leadership on defense where GOP leaders will spontaneously and pre-emptively blame Ted Cruz and Mike Lee and do whatever the President wants them to do.

Republicans thought themselves clever, but the Democrats are baiting a trap of the Republicans’ own design. The Democrats, and especially the President, want to be thrown in that briar patch.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 113th; aca; evilobamaregime; illegalpresident; impeachthelyingphony
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How do we, allegedly a free people, contend with such underhanded trickery, subterfuge, chicanery, obfuscations, lies and deceit from politicians and their damned bureaucrats in positions that control our very freedoms and way of life? At what point do we hang these treacherous cheats in the square like Mussolini, as our founders even knew we should on occasion, to maintain the power of the people over complicated and oppressive governance?

Hopefully many, including baby-fat Landrieu, are eliminated from Congress!

1 posted on 11/15/2013 4:43:25 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
All you need to know about Upton is that he voted to ban the incandescent bulb. A true putz!

The only thing the House should vote on is repeal of obamacare. Vote on it over and over. Don't try to fix it, it is unfixable. Then on to impeachment.

2 posted on 11/15/2013 4:45:58 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Let,s face it not all republicans are conservatives and a good portion of them are not too bright either even if they may think so. Too bad that there are not more of Ted Cruz around.
3 posted on 11/15/2013 4:50:27 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: IbJensen

How stupid can Upton be? Or is he being blackmailed, as Chief Weasel John Roberts was? When your enemy is committing suicide, you wouldn’t interfere. When would Democrats ever do that for Repubicans?


4 posted on 11/15/2013 4:50:46 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: IbJensen
Why would Republicans want to buy into this s**t storm that is engulfing BO and the Dims? Why?

Picture of BO and Dims "fixing" Obamacare, Laocoön courtesy of the Vatican:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/63/192939697_ae060b422b.jpg

5 posted on 11/15/2013 4:51:07 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: IbJensen

Mark Levin explains why Republicans SHOULD NOT pass ‘keep your plan’ legislation for Obamacare

http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-explains-why-republicans-should-not-pass-keep-your-plan-legislation-for-obamacare/

3 Minutes

MARK LEVIN NOW IS THE TIME TO VOTE TO DEFFUND OR REPEAL, SHOVE THIS DAMNED OBAMACARE DOWN THEIR THROAT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceZqBc7thpc


6 posted on 11/15/2013 4:52:52 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: IbJensen
  He's right. Obamacare isn't fixable and the only Republican votes should be for repeal of the bill.
7 posted on 11/15/2013 4:55:07 AM PST by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Whenifhow

According to Eric Cantor, Obama says he will veto ‘keep your plan’ legislation.

Now Obama wants a closed door meeting with insurance execs.


8 posted on 11/15/2013 5:02:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: IbJensen

why would any GOP rep vote for a bill that tells the public their private health insurance companies will be “required” to sell an illegal “substandard” product, on the premise they will have a one year reprieve (with the “winner” selectively decided by lord obama) from being prosecuted by the feds?


9 posted on 11/15/2013 5:04:00 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: cripplecreek

“Now Obama wants a closed door meeting with insurance execs.”

uh huh

NOW who’s standing between who and the pitchforks?
karma is a be-yotch


10 posted on 11/15/2013 5:05:53 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: cripplecreek

Of course Obama wants the meeting behind closed doors -

No doubt it will be closed doors, how else can Obama “encourage” those folks to do what he wants.

On Fox moments ago Peter Johnson Jr suggested this meeting with insurance executives be televised. Recall the promise of the Health care debate being televised on c-span? The comment from Peter Johnson was likely referring to that promise broken.


11 posted on 11/15/2013 5:08:27 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

It should be televised and I’m already hammering away at the liberals on twitter about it.

If you like your backroom deal, you can keep your backroom deal.


12 posted on 11/15/2013 5:10:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: saintgermaine

I want a law written in stone that NO ONE, especially congress along with cabinet members and their families, is exempt from any and all laws they pass or create rules and regs for.
WE should insist on this and we should do it loudly and long. NO EXEMPTIONS for anyone. None.


13 posted on 11/15/2013 5:12:31 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: IbJensen
...they say their for letting people...

*sigh*

14 posted on 11/15/2013 5:12:45 AM PST by N. Theknow (Defund, Abolish, Repeal ObamaCare. You cannot fix stupid. You cannot repair incompetence.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Repeal or nothing.


15 posted on 11/15/2013 5:13:47 AM PST by steve8714 (Ted Drewes is proof there is a God...and He wants us to be happy.)
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... but it lacks measures to force insurance companies to let people keep their plans. It is a paper tiger.

I have a real problem with that one. You want to give THIS GOVERNMENT the right to send companies to jail or fine them if they fail to sell their product even when they choose not to do so?

Really?

Even if they are losing money on the deal?

Even if that product has been discontinued?

I don't think so.

16 posted on 11/15/2013 5:14:58 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Maurice Tift

-——Boehner: Affordable Care Act ‘can’t be fixed’——

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/53554389/#53554389

So, how about this?


17 posted on 11/15/2013 5:15:15 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: IbJensen

There is NOTHING anyone can do at this point that will “fix” this problem. Policies have been canceled. No legislation is going to bring that back. Small business owners around September are going to face the same prospect. For those who have insurance, premiums will dramatically increase. It’s simple economics.

The best thing the Republicans can to is to pull out one of their many plans that they’ve offered (yes, they have them) and start talking about repealing Obamacare immediately. They shouldn’t be talking about delays.


18 posted on 11/15/2013 5:16:05 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: silverleaf

They would vote for it because they’ve become the ‘let’s just all get along’ doofusses. They’re sycophants entrenched in a lifetime career.


19 posted on 11/15/2013 5:17:25 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

The other way to look at this is that it will be quite entertaining to see Democrats vote against (in the Upton bill) exactly what Obama proposed yesterday.


20 posted on 11/15/2013 5:19:54 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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