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Should Pete Rose be admitted to the Baseball Hall of Fame? I say yes. What say you?

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1 posted on 11/14/2013 12:01:57 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Same thing Hillary is saying for 2016.


2 posted on 11/14/2013 12:02:40 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: EveningStar

How much did he pay?


3 posted on 11/14/2013 12:03:28 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: EveningStar

Shoeless Joe Jackson first then we’ll talk about Pete.


4 posted on 11/14/2013 12:04:59 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: EveningStar
or come any cleaner than he has

It's my understanding that he never admitted that he bet on games. Bart Giamotti gave him several chances to do so, and he never did.

5 posted on 11/14/2013 12:05:02 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: EveningStar

I say “No”.....The one thing that will destroy baseball is if the integrity of the game is brought into question....having harsh penalties for throwing/betting on games is the only way to protect the game.


6 posted on 11/14/2013 12:05:09 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: EveningStar

He’s too old no one will sign a 72 year old 2nd baseman.


7 posted on 11/14/2013 12:05:53 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: EveningStar

I say Yes also. He WAS a GOOD player! He just engaged in some petty crimes.


8 posted on 11/14/2013 12:06:27 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: EveningStar

I say no. He was shown the evidence by MLB against him, and decided correctly to accept his ban. For years afterwards he decided to lie to the rest of us. Nothing is a bigger threat to any sport than gambling. Any hint the games are not on the level and it is curtains for the league and sport. No other category of scandal has that potential.


9 posted on 11/14/2013 12:06:28 PM PST by gusty
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To: EveningStar

I am a big yes on this one. Pete Rose was an inspiration to aspiring players and fans over his entire great career. If his gambling had been proven to the point that he threw games I would change my mind.


10 posted on 11/14/2013 12:06:39 PM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: EveningStar

No. I have always believed he doesn’t agree to the ban unless there is worse information he and the commissioner were aware of.


12 posted on 11/14/2013 12:09:06 PM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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No he hasn’t, no he shouldn’t. What part of “lifetime ban” do these people find confusing? They should induct him the day after his funeral, no speech or ceremony by anybody, just announce that a Pete Rose exhibit has been added, and it includes the full text of the investigation.


16 posted on 11/14/2013 12:12:06 PM PST by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: EveningStar

I heard that he bet on baseball games but he never bet against his own team. He bet his team would beat the other team and did everything he could to win. If he lost games on purpose I would say hell no. If he used steroids I would also say hell no. I vote yes. He paid the price for his mistakes.


19 posted on 11/14/2013 12:13:19 PM PST by forgotten man
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The gambling rule is posted in every clubhouse. First he denied betting on baseball, then said he only bet on games he wasn't involved in, then he said he did bet on games that he managed. The man is a serial liar and broke the rules.

Although it should be noted that the Hall of Fame is not in any way connected to MLB as an organization.

20 posted on 11/14/2013 12:14:29 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: EveningStar
Pete Rose is another poster boy for an asinine "one size fits all" blanket policy. Yes, he bet on baseball. Yes, there is a severe and appropriate penalty of necessity dating back to the 1919 White Sox scandal. Yes, he knew the penalty.

But the key issue here is that he was betting on his own team, not against it. Said bet would not give him incentive to throw any games but to actually try harder.

Therefore, this is an infraction of the rules and not a violation. Rose deserves to be fined, maybe even suspended, but certainly not banned from baseball for life. I'd say that 25 years in the wilderness is more than enough.

22 posted on 11/14/2013 12:15:08 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: EveningStar

He needs to declare he is gay, took steroids, hates the Tea Party, and write a book about it all.

He will then be welcomed back with open arms.


23 posted on 11/14/2013 12:18:27 PM PST by PGR88
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To: EveningStar

yawn. Let’s not be mistaking professional athletes and entertainers for people of significance.


25 posted on 11/14/2013 12:19:17 PM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: EveningStar
I think Pete Rose is incredibly stupid (to say the least) for betting on games while a manager.

But his admission into the HOF would be for what he did as a player. And he's obviously deserving based on his playing career.

So, I do not & have never had a problem distinguishing between the two & admitting him into the HOF.

26 posted on 11/14/2013 12:19:23 PM PST by gdani
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It doesn't really matter to me whether he's in the Hall of Fame or not. He was the player that I tried to strive to be while playing baseball or softball. Hit an easy ground ball to the infield? Run it out, full speed, to first base anyway. Hit a long fly to the outfield? Run it out, full speed, to see how far you can get when the outfielder drops the ball. Going into the bag against the tag or to break up a double play? Within the limits of the rules, do your utmost to break it up or cause the fielder to drop the ball. A baserunner coming in to try to break up the play at home base? Square up and brace yourself, and watch him bounce off ...

I played catcher for 45 years in baseball and softball, until my knees gave out. Pete Rose was my hero then and, even now, knowing that he had feet of clay .. as does every other human being .. I don't regret a moment of it.

He doesn't need to be in the Hall of Fame; he'll always be in my Hall of Fame and it is those playing principles that I teach my players and grandsons.

30 posted on 11/14/2013 12:20:51 PM PST by BlueLancer ("Oh, man, that's a lot of Indians!" [LTC George A. Custer, 1876, near the Little Bighorn Valley])
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If we’re going to allow Pete Rose into the Hall of Fame, why not give Lance Armstrong back his Tour de France awards and lift his lifetime ban on competition?


31 posted on 11/14/2013 12:21:52 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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Pete Rose admitted that he bet on his own games for a team he was managing. He broke the golden rule of baseball at the time.
It really doesn’t get any simpler than that. Everything else is opinion, not fact.
He should not be allowed into the HOF but his records should be there.


36 posted on 11/14/2013 12:25:07 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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