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Obama VS. the Generals
Politico ^ | Nov, 2013 | Rosa Brooks

Posted on 11/14/2013 8:19:40 AM PST by thefactor

After a spate of news stories this summer citing tensions between President Barack Obama and his top military commanders over the possibility of U.S. intervention in Syria, White House chief of staff Denis McDonough hastened to assure the Washington Post that everything was, in fact, copacetic: The president “appreciates” candid military advice “above all else,” McDonough insisted, and has “close, and in some instances warm, relationships with his military chiefs,” as the Post put it.

During my own time at the Pentagon, where I worked as an Obama appointee from the spring of 2009 until mid-2011, few seemed to hold this view. I recall asking one general, recently back from Afghanistan, if he’d shared his experiences and insights with the president. Rolling his eyes, he told me grimly that the White House preferred the military to be seen but not heard.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: generals; military; obama; war
What. A. Mess.
1 posted on 11/14/2013 8:19:40 AM PST by thefactor
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To: Admin Moderator
Darn. I posted the link to page 2 of the article. Can we fix the link to this one, please:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/obama-vs-the-generals-99379.html

2 posted on 11/14/2013 8:21:16 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

Obama has no liking for anyone who shows the least opposition to him or his positions and will do everything he can to remove them.

After all he is the Messiah.


3 posted on 11/14/2013 8:23:52 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: thefactor
The president “appreciates” candid military advice “above all else,”

Wanna buy a bridge?

4 posted on 11/14/2013 8:24:16 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: thefactor

Links to pages 2 and 3:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/obama-vs-the-generals-99379_Page2.html

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/obama-vs-the-generals-99379_Page3.html


5 posted on 11/14/2013 8:25:27 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: thefactor

IBC316PPTWT!

(In Before Centurion316 Poo-Poos The Whole Thing)


6 posted on 11/14/2013 8:25:59 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: thefactor

IBC316PPTWT!

(In Before Centurion316 Poo-Poos The Whole Thing)


7 posted on 11/14/2013 8:25:59 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void; centurion316

A stutter post and I still forgot to ping him. *sigh*


8 posted on 11/14/2013 8:26:52 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: thefactor

He should worry about the colonels.


9 posted on 11/14/2013 8:27:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Don Corleone

“The president “appreciates” candid military advice “above all else,”

Did Joseph Goebbels write this?


10 posted on 11/14/2013 8:29:22 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: thefactor

I just feel all warm and fuzzy knowing the CiC has a close relationship with his generals etc. Stupid me. I was thinking he wanted to be rid of the ones who would not follow orders to shoot civilians when the time comes. I rest assured now that all is well and he is probably golfing and even having rose garden beer fests with the officers.

Excuse me from any further comments today. I am off to buy ocean front property in Arizona just as soon as I send a bank money order to a distant cousin who has had his passport and all of his money stolen in a foreign country.


11 posted on 11/14/2013 8:30:05 AM PST by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: thefactor
"the White House preferred the military to be seen but not heard..." You bet! Bring in the brown shirts!
12 posted on 11/14/2013 8:34:22 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: null and void

Thanks for the ping. I don’t know why you would think that I’d poo poo it. It’s a pretty good article, but it doesn’t mention a single example of a purge victim unless you want to count McChrystal who did himself in.

Obama is a war with the military and LTG (retired) Dave Barno, mentioned in the article, is one of his henchment helping to dismantle our defense department. No doubt that’s going on, but what is happening is some diabolical purge, especially with the names that have been suggested as proof. Someone please tell me one general/flag officer who has been purge, and who once free to talk about it has given his side of the story. They are all quietly doing what they have been told to do. They may not like it, but they are doing it.


13 posted on 11/14/2013 8:39:52 AM PST by centurion316
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To: thefactor
The article is a devastating indictment of the sheer incompetency of the 0 junta, but more so speaks to a certain level of paranoia. The reader comments at the presumably left-wing site are interesting.
14 posted on 11/14/2013 8:46:26 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: thefactor

Agreed. The worship, by the American people, of egalitarianism has elevated into positions of authority the stupid who are also cursed with poor impulse control. We may have reached the point where we may need a military coup, which of course would be the formal end of the republic. So very sad.


15 posted on 11/14/2013 9:08:10 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: thefactor

Too many people think our admirals and generals are all like Schwarzkopf. They aren’t. And all most people know about Schwarzkopf was what they saw at the press conferences. Look at the Navy. They haven’t had a serious naval battle in 60 or 70 years. How do you get ahead in the Navy? Do they promote people based on their performance in combat? Nope. They are promoting people based on other criteria. The same with the Army. They haven’t seriously maneuvered Corps and Armies for decades. Except for a few weeks, the Army hasn’t really maneuvered Brigades and Divisions in the past several decades. So, how do you pick your admirals and generals?
“Old Dave sure turned his Division around and hit those krauts hard!”
“Dave’s Division had the lowest number of sexual harassment claims.”
You get more of what you reward and less of what you punish.


16 posted on 11/14/2013 9:31:08 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: centurion316

Probably getting advice from Putin.


17 posted on 11/14/2013 9:52:31 AM PST by huldah1776
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