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Veterans Affairs forced chaplains from program for quoting Scripture....
Fox News ^ | November 11, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 11/12/2013 12:46:52 PM PST by yoe

Two Baptist chaplains said they were forced out of a Veterans Affairs chaplain training program after they refused orders to stop quoting the Bible and to stop praying in the name of Jesus.

When the men objected to those demands, they were subjected to ridicule and harassment that led to one of the chaplains leaving the program and the other being ejected, according to a federal lawsuit filed Friday.

The Conservative Baptist Association of America is suing Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki; the group’s suit alleges two of its chaplains were openly ridiculed by the leader of the San Diego-based VA-DOD Clinical Pastoral Education Center program.

“Not only was the treatment these men received inappropriate, it was also a violation of federal law and the religious freedom guarantees of the First Amendment,” said John Wells, an attorney representing the Colorado-based denomination.

“No American choosing to serve in the armed forces should be openly ridiculed for his Christian faith,” he said, calling it one of the most blatant cases of religious discrimination he has ever seen.

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To: yoe
So in this same chaplaincy program, is it ok to quote from the Koran and mention Allah and Mohammad?
21 posted on 11/12/2013 3:04:01 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: yoe
Ordered by Shinseki, who forced us to wear those silly sick French Berets.

We Vets spelled Shinseki a different because we disliked him so much.

22 posted on 11/12/2013 3:31:58 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: yoe

“suing Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki...”

Where are the MPs arresting this freak obamanoid for violating the troops’ religious freedom? I’m guessing that the 101st Airborne has an MP company somewhere.


23 posted on 11/12/2013 3:34:39 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: I want the USA back

>>It’s pretty damned obvious that the current administration is actively seeking to eliminate Christianity.

To quote Mr T, “I pity the fool.” Illegal Christianity defeats any statist, dictator, or regime. Legal Christianity just argues over dogma, budgets, and bible translations.


24 posted on 11/12/2013 5:01:40 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Thanks yoe.

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25 posted on 11/12/2013 6:33:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: yoe

This post needs more Scripture! ;)

1 Corinthians 1:18-25

“For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.”


26 posted on 11/12/2013 6:51:39 PM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: tgusa

As an Army chaplain, I had the unusual privilege of being aboard a naval vessel at various times between 1987-89. During those times, I was asked to have that evening prayer, and not once did anyone complain about the name of Jesus being used. Times have certainly changed.


27 posted on 11/12/2013 7:25:13 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: I want the USA back

“It’s pretty damned obvious that the current administration is actively seeking to eliminate Christianity.”

It’s an old tool of Satan. And it doesn’t work. History demonstrates that the Church will grow when persecuted. Full of Believers who just don’t care about what anyone thinks, other than the LORD Himself.


28 posted on 11/12/2013 7:35:55 PM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: yoe

What’s next??? Are they going to start shooting the quartermasters for using clipboards.....?


29 posted on 11/12/2013 7:54:26 PM PST by GraceG
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30 posted on 11/12/2013 7:55:22 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: cherokee1

There are 3 of various backgrounds including one Roman Catholic. They are following orders.


31 posted on 11/13/2013 5:51:42 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: cherokee1

There are 3 of various backgrounds including one Roman Catholic. They are following orders.


32 posted on 11/13/2013 5:51:42 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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