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Why can't we admit we're scared of Islamism?
The (London) Spectator (hat tip-NRO) ^ | 11-9-13 | Nick Cohen

Posted on 11/10/2013 2:01:25 PM PST by jocon307

The annual [Passion for Freedom] exhibition is as close as London gets to underground art. That claim may surprise you. If you listen to artists, writers, academics and journalists, you would think that thousands of them operate in a radical underground. They say the right things. They ‘speak truth to power’, ‘transgress boundaries’, and all the rest of it. But you will have noticed that they are careful only to challenge religions that won’t hurt them (Christianity) and governments that won’t arrest them (democracies). The London-based Polish intellectuals who organise this artistic protest against abuses of human rights are braver. Passion for Freedom is not devoted to anti-Islamist art. But its curators are not frightened to show it either.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: arts; jihad
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To: CelesteChristi

Well, you and I know that. But in UK people who speak out against Islam are prosecuted under racial hate speech laws.

Possibly I should have been more clear. My experience is when there is an article of this type in a Brit newspaper, half the comments are of the “racism is the greatest possible crime, and anti-Muslim is racist” type. I found it surprising that this article didn’t seem to draw that response.


41 posted on 11/10/2013 4:42:36 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: combat_boots

And do I care what they do and do not recognize? I know I’m supposed to be “sensitive” to their beliefs while they are free to spit on mine.


42 posted on 11/10/2013 4:45:26 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I understand.


43 posted on 11/10/2013 4:57:41 PM PST by CelesteChristi
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To: Sherman Logan

I see what you mean. I misunderstood. Thank you.


44 posted on 11/10/2013 4:58:33 PM PST by CelesteChristi
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Islam is a war plan.


45 posted on 11/10/2013 5:00:05 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Sherman Logan

I’ll have to go back and read the comments, I didn’t notice them before.


46 posted on 11/10/2013 5:09:00 PM PST by jocon307
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To: DoughtyOne; max americana

“I’m not afraid of Islam.”

That’s the problem with sticking with the original headline.

The author is chiding the left (or maybe more the media mainstream) for their denial that they avoid “insulting” islam out of fear.


47 posted on 11/10/2013 5:20:29 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Little Ray
I felt the same way about Muslims until I hired a young man in Bangladesh who happened to be Muslim (and an amazingly skilled Oracle database administrator, BTW, which was quite an accomplishment).

One day it occurred to me that he might need a new laptop computer and I asked him what he wanted most .. his answer .. "Peace for all men". At that instant I could not longer generalize about Muslims.

And just today I was watching a TV program about how the nation of Turkey joined the modern world. There are millions of Muslims who simply are not radical, and I'll no more generalize about religion than I will about race - you just end up throwing out too many babies with the proverbial bath water.

48 posted on 11/10/2013 6:12:48 PM PST by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m not afraid of Islam. I’m afraid of being prevented from supporting and protecting our nation from it.

Exactly!
49 posted on 11/10/2013 6:41:32 PM PST by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: skeeter

Well..., that’s rather apparent isn’t it.


50 posted on 11/10/2013 7:19:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Syncro

That’s how I see it.


51 posted on 11/10/2013 7:20:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Diversity is king...

We’re all surfs.


52 posted on 11/10/2013 7:42:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: jocon307

I agree with your take on it.

Still had some other points to make regarding the Islamist and their fear.


53 posted on 11/10/2013 7:43:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Old Yeller

:^)


54 posted on 11/10/2013 7:43:15 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Little Ray

>>>The Left isn’t afraid of Islam. They see it as tool to dismantled Western Civ, and to subjugate the West.
Then its off to the camps with ‘em.<<<

Exactly. And Islam sees the left in the same way, with the roles reversed. Although the “camps” for Islam would be simple slaughter and torture, without any of the trappings of civilization that the left likes to parade around to show off their progressive nature. Same result, though.


55 posted on 11/10/2013 9:57:40 PM PST by redpoll
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To: The Duke

Thank you! I’d agree with you, except...

“Peace” in Arabic doesn’t necessarily mean the same thing as “Peace” in English. When we were in the Cold War, “Peace” in the Soviet’s mouths meant “lack of resistance to socialism (communism).” To a Moslem, “Peace” means “Submission to Allah.” I am kinda keen on resistance to both Socialism and Allah, myself.

In any case, it may simply be that your employee is simply not a very good Moslem (which is a GOOD thing...)!


56 posted on 11/11/2013 5:38:52 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Little Ray

More for me to study. This is something that I absolutely dont’ want to get wrong! Thanks for the thought about the definition of “peace” - it is not something I had considered.


57 posted on 11/11/2013 9:56:50 AM PST by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: Little Ray
BTW, this is the young man to whom I was referring...FWIW ...

http://www.linkedin.com/in/arjudba

Were all Muslims in possession of his high character the world would be much less troubled.

58 posted on 11/11/2013 10:01:53 AM PST by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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