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Northeastern Illinois Rewrites History… Dedicates Building to “Democrat” Abraham Lincoln
Liberty News ^ | 11/4/13 | Eric Odom

Posted on 11/04/2013 1:43:45 PM PST by AT7Saluki

Northeastern Illinois needs to be educated on its political heroes. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, not a Democrat. But the Jacob Carruthers Center for Inner City Studies apparently would prefer to just make up their own version.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: abrahamlincoln; democrat; democratfail; fail; illinois; lincoln; republican
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To: AT7Saluki

Maybe it’s just a reference to someone who believes in democracy — a democrat.


21 posted on 11/04/2013 2:29:12 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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To: Hoodat; All

In the opinion of some people, including me, the Civil War was sybolically a war between the federal government, represented by the Northern States and state sovereignty, represented by the Southern States. In other words, the federal government fought against its constitutonally limited powers and won.

So in that context, Lincoln was a pro-unconstitutionally big federal government Democrat.


22 posted on 11/04/2013 2:40:25 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: AT7Saluki
What do you expect, the place is in a ghetto in Chicago.
And anyone who sees that plaque can't read it anyway.
23 posted on 11/04/2013 2:48:20 PM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: AT7Saluki

How do I say this politely...

That is not one of Illinois’ “premier” institutions of higher education.

And, of course, the plaque looks like it was cast brass, very expensive...maybe they can get someone to steal it for scrap and try again.


24 posted on 11/04/2013 2:51:04 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie

It’s from 1903


25 posted on 11/04/2013 2:51:49 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Amendment10

I prefer to call it “The War of Secession”. And yes, Lincoln did represent a huge expansion of government. But for the issue at hand - freedom, equality, etc. - Lincoln, Fremont, et al were the ones championing it while Democrats opposed it. And to this very day, Democrats continue to oppose freedom and equality.


26 posted on 11/04/2013 3:07:45 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: GreyFriar

Jeff Davis wasn’t Lincoln’s opponent.


27 posted on 11/04/2013 3:11:06 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Amendment10

nonsense. Lincoln sought to defend the constitution against insurrectionists attempting to tear our nation apart... as any good president would do.


28 posted on 11/04/2013 3:16:00 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

With all due respect, Lincoln wasn’t defending the Constitution. He was trying to restore the Union at the point of many many guns. In retrospect, it was the right call. But please don’t say that it was Constitutional. It wasn’t.


29 posted on 11/04/2013 3:19:20 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: GreyFriar

This is in Northeastern Illinois where history is Chicago style.


30 posted on 11/04/2013 3:25:14 PM PST by zot
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To: AT7Saluki
That's my alma mater.

I applied to take a course there before I had even graduated with my B.A. from a Bible College. The Dean of Graduate Studies, a Muslim with a PhD, cleared his throat and said: "Well, we have different standards here."

Yeah.
31 posted on 11/04/2013 3:28:10 PM PST by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: Hoodat

In retrospect, it was the wrong call.

The right call would have been to recognize their right to secede, then go to war over the slavery issue anyway.

Likely the south would have gone ahead and abolished slavery, and reunited with the north twenty years later (by which time slavery had been rendered un viable by the progression of the industrial revolution.)


32 posted on 11/04/2013 3:40:37 PM PST by MrEdd (iHeck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: oldbrowser

Ya. And what was Kennedy by today’s standards.


33 posted on 11/04/2013 3:45:21 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: GeronL

“It’s from 1903”

So, someone on campus just noticed this NOW?

You would think that would be enough time to fix it.

God knows, Illinois has probably blown tens of billions of 2013 dollars on more trivial matters/graft since then...


34 posted on 11/04/2013 4:08:33 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: BfloGuy

“Maybe it’s just a reference to someone who believes in democracy — a democrat.”

This is a plausible explanation.


35 posted on 11/04/2013 4:10:57 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: castlegreyskull

That doesn’t matter, in this case, because the entire democrat line is that the republican’s were the pro-slavery party, formed the KKK, and enforced Jim Crow laws in the south. Thus Jeff Davis, and all the southern politicians must have been Republicans, since the democrat Abraham Lincoln lead the Democrat party in its war on the south.

This is according to the book of revisionism 101. ;-)


36 posted on 11/04/2013 4:12:53 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: AT7Saluki

No, stupid.


37 posted on 11/04/2013 4:18:43 PM PST by GOPJ (A US workers' revolution won't be Socialist, it'll be an Anti-Socialist revolution.greenfield)
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To: Hoodat; All
And to this very day, Democrats continue to oppose freedom and equality.

I agree to an extent about Democrats. My reservation is the following. I question if the federal government's constitutionally limited powers were ever properly taught. If not, then Civil War era Democrats, as well as "Republican" Lincoln, possibly regarded the presidency as a kind of kingship. And if such is the case, then post Civil War Democrats may have targeted winning control of the Oval Office as a means of getting revenge on the North.

Yes, it's a rough theory. The cold war aspect of the Civil War is a challenging jigsaw puzzle.

38 posted on 11/04/2013 4:25:21 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: rockrr; All
Lincoln sought to defend the constitution against insurrectionists attempting to tear our nation apart... as any good president would do.

If you study the discussions at the Constitutonal Convention, you might question if the United States were ever really united. This is evidenced by the strained language in the Constitution concerning slavery.

Also, as I've mentioned in another post, I question if citizens were ever taught the idea of a constitutonally-limited power federal government.

39 posted on 11/04/2013 4:43:06 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Hoodat

But he was defending the constitution. And I will say that it was constitutional - because it was.

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 gives control of the militia to the president.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 7 commands an oath of office of a president:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Combined with the Uniform Militia Act of 1792 and the Militia Act of 1796 the president is permitted to call out the militia to put down insurrections or rebellions.

The die was already cast before Lincoln assumed office. He did what he could to calm the insurrectionists but they were fixed on a path of destruction. It was Lincoln’s duty to respond to the rebellion and he did his duty.

Thank God.


40 posted on 11/04/2013 5:10:49 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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