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Ga. National Guard will ignore Pentagon directive to recognize same-sex spouses
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | November 1, 2013 | Greg Bluestein, Jim Galloway and Daniel Malloy

Posted on 11/01/2013 2:40:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Georgia National Guard this afternoon indicated it intends to ignore a directive from Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and will continue to send same-sex spouses of National Guard personnel elsewhere for benefits guaranteed by the Pentagon.

Here's the statement received late Friday from Joseph Quimby, deputy director of public affairs for the state Department of Defense:

“The State of Georgia does not recognize same sex marriages and is not authorizing the Georgia National Guard to process the applications for same-sex married benefits at state facilities. Any personnel seeking to apply for same-sex married benefits will be referred to federal facilities.”

The statement was in response to this piece by the Associated Press:

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on Thursday sharply criticized U.S. states that are defying the Pentagon by refusing to allow National Guard facilities to issue ID cards that enable same-sex spouses of military members to claim benefits.

"This is wrong," Hagel said in a speech in New York....

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: abortion; chuckhagel; deathpanels; gaymarriage; georgia; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; nationalguard; obama; obamacare; samesexmarriage; ssm; zerocare
So Fort Sumter is now in Georgia?
1 posted on 11/01/2013 2:40:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good for Georgia!


2 posted on 11/01/2013 2:42:18 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How to secede in monkey business without really trying


3 posted on 11/01/2013 2:43:07 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My pee-wee football team won its league,undefeated We were noncom and officers’ sons at Fort Benning and thought we were pretty hot stuff.
So we played the best equivalent team from Columbus. They beat us like rented logsplitters .....


4 posted on 11/01/2013 2:47:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: stainlessbanner; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Jim Robinson; Gabz; Salvation; TonyRo76; Alouette; ...

Ping!


5 posted on 11/01/2013 2:49:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Eeb-uh-deeb-uh-deeb ... uh what’s upChuck?


6 posted on 11/01/2013 2:49:55 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
These homo-Gestapo brown shirts don't care that sodomite soldiers can get their bennies at a federal facility - they MUST force others to recognize and bow to their perversion. This is all it's about.

People think that Obamacare, gun laws, ever-increasing taxes, and abortion are the most serious issues facing us today. But it is the homosexual agenda that is the spearhead of ALL of these other oppressions.

7 posted on 11/01/2013 2:52:51 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live in N.J. and somehow I don’t think we will follow Georgias lead.
But we are #1 in mass governor weight.


8 posted on 11/01/2013 2:55:29 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey baggie eyes, “Bite Me”.


9 posted on 11/01/2013 2:55:39 PM PDT by Pit1 (Obama is the big pile in the road.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good for them. The president is NOT their commander in chief nor is Hagel in their chain of command. The governor of Georgia is their commander in chief unless their units are activated, and then Obummer is their CIC only during that period.


10 posted on 11/01/2013 3:07:34 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: tumblindice

Uh, okay. But what does that have to do with the story?


11 posted on 11/01/2013 3:09:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only way to defeat Obama is to ignore him. Ignore everything he tells us to do. They can’t kill or imprison all of us.


12 posted on 11/01/2013 3:13:01 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012; joesjane

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2973072/posts?page=44#44


13 posted on 11/01/2013 3:17:33 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good. I’m noticing that some of the dictatorship is beginning to crack at the state level.

But it remains to be seen what Herr Obama will do about it. Since he even turned the generally harmless parkies into storm troopers during the shutdown, I think his retaliation is going to be swift. I hope they hang in there.


14 posted on 11/01/2013 3:19:09 PM PDT by livius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

it begins

This is the time for all good Americans in uniform to refuse illegal orders from a corrupt regime led by incompetent and possibly treasonous leadership .
This needs to begin at the top , at command level , as it appears to here , and not fall upon courageous Cols. , Majors
or NCO only


15 posted on 11/01/2013 3:19:11 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Georgia National Guard this afternoon indicated it intends to ignore a directive from Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and will continue to send same-sex spouses of National Guard personnel elsewhere for benefits guaranteed by the Pentagon.

Apparently Chuck Hagel is a puppet of the regime, unless he is among those who believe that men and women are interchangeable.

Hurray for the Georgia National Guard. They are among those of us who KNOW that men and women are different!

16 posted on 11/01/2013 3:23:21 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Several Generals and Colonels will lose their pensions and the NG there will fall into line.
17 posted on 11/01/2013 3:24:48 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“They can’t kill or imprison all of us.”

Tell that to the 6 million Jews and millions of Gypsies, genetically or physically deficient children, who were almost wiped out at the whim of a clubfoot madman.
The hardcore left in this country is chock full of mutant sadists and no one anywhere is safe anymore.
Arm yourself, be wary, be alert, and do not hesitate to fight back.


18 posted on 11/01/2013 3:26:04 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Towanda! Charge!!! A Fuwappiduh is called for in 5, 4, 3 ,2.....Dang, that was awesome, Dudes......)
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To: olezip
Apparently Chuck Hagel is a puppet of the regime

No,he's an enthusiastic member of TeamObama.He runs DoD just as Arlen Sphincter or Jim Jeffords would have done.

19 posted on 11/01/2013 3:27:30 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So Fort Sumter is now in Georgia?


My thought exactly!


20 posted on 11/01/2013 3:33:15 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation sucks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What could possibly go wrong?


If you like your state, you will be able to keep your state. Period.

If you like your sovereignty, you will be able to keep your sovereignty. Period.

No one will take them away. No matter what.


If you like your military, you will be able to keep your military. Period.

If you like your generals, you will be able to keep your generals. Period.

No one will take them away. No matter what.


21 posted on 11/01/2013 3:35:54 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation sucks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Makes sense to me. National Guardsmen are state employees until such time as they get on federal orders (with the exception of reserve technicians...who, during the week, are federal civil service).

I don’t really see the controversy here.

(yes, I’m being intentionally a little bit obtuse)


22 posted on 11/01/2013 3:43:29 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In his remarks to an Anti-Defamation League centennial dinner speech, Hagel did not name the states that are defying Pentagon policy on this issue. But the Pentagon has cited nine: Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas and West Virginia.

Seems we have nine Governors with a spine...

Hagel said he instructed Grass to meet with the adjutants general from the nine states where the ID cards are being denied at state facilities. He said those adjutants general, who work for their states' governor, "will be expected to comply" with Pentagon policy on this issue.

How does Hagel expect to make these adjutants general who work for their Governors "comply" with an order clearly not within the framework of Hagel chain of command...

23 posted on 11/01/2013 3:57:08 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman
the Pentagon has cited nine: Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas and West Virginia. ...Seems we have nine Governors with a spine...

Hey Governor LePage;

You seeing this?

24 posted on 11/01/2013 3:58:59 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>“The State of Georgia does not recognize same sex marriages and is not authorizing the Georgia National Guard to process the applications for same-sex married benefits at state facilities. Any personnel seeking to apply for same-sex married benefits will be referred to federal facilities.”

This is Florida-Georgia weekend, so I will not congratulate Georgia for this today. But, after the game tomorrow, I will cheer for this ballsy decision!


25 posted on 11/01/2013 4:04:51 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yep, this govt has no power unless we give it to them


26 posted on 11/01/2013 4:18:44 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As I have said ad nauseum on FR the states will start to go their own way. GA leads the way.


27 posted on 11/01/2013 4:21:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: livius

I would LOVE to see the states begin to claw back the money they send to DC for ‘Education’. Common Core is a disaster and the States are the entities that are tasked with educating our nation’s youth. The Feds just usurped the power........STAND UP STATES AND TAKE BACK THE POWER TO EDUCATE YOUR OWN CHOLDREN!


28 posted on 11/01/2013 4:24:15 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: MestaMachine; ilovesarah2012

RE “They can’t kill or imprison all of us.”:

and

“...Tell that to the 6 million Jews and millions of Gypsies, ...”

Those folks didn’t shoot back and actively hunt down those perpetrating it.

This isn’t Europe, we aren’t Europeans, and this isn’t the 1940s.

Won’t be free, and won’t be easy, and won’t be painless for them.


29 posted on 11/01/2013 4:54:13 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hagel’s wrong. Way to go, Georgia.


30 posted on 11/01/2013 4:58:38 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: NFHale

Please note the last sentence of my post.


31 posted on 11/01/2013 4:58:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Towanda! Charge!!! A Fuwappiduh is called for in 5, 4, 3 ,2.....Dang, that was awesome, Dudes......)
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To: NFHale

Yep, the German had gun registration ,followed by gun confiscation. And no one,or at least very few even protested.

ANY person or government that wants to register your guns really wants to take them away.

Avoid registration because it has always ended in confiscation.


32 posted on 11/01/2013 5:04:07 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Uh, okay. But what does that have to do with the story?

Wondered that myself. O.P. is a fine poster though.

33 posted on 11/01/2013 5:12:38 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So Fort Sumter is now in Georgia?

There's a Sumter County in GA, its county seat is Americus. I lived there for many years, and can believe this.

34 posted on 11/01/2013 6:07:01 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Rock, paper, scissors, GUN. I win.)
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To: IronJack
Eeb-uh-deeb-uh-deeb ...

Heard someone calling my Last name. Howd'ja know, IronJack

BTT, Makes me glad I'm a Georgia boy...but I still can't wait until HEAVEN comes!

35 posted on 11/01/2013 7:44:52 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10th Amendment, motherf**kers! Barack Obama, Chuck Hagel and Anthony Kennedy can go to hell.


36 posted on 11/01/2013 7:45:43 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Then I wish I was in Dixie, hooray! hooray!
In Dixie Land I’ll take my stand to live and die in Dixie,


37 posted on 11/01/2013 8:09:49 PM PDT by Baum Threat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh snap!


38 posted on 11/01/2013 9:56:36 PM PDT by wastedyears (Ender's Game in theaters Nov. 1st)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like when it comes to gay activist bullies, Georgia’s finest aren’t gonna be the metaphorical nerds who just let themselves be stuffed into trash cans, toilets and lockers all day without doing anything about it.


39 posted on 11/01/2013 10:52:29 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: ilovesarah2012

Acts 4
15 ¶ But when they had commanded them to go aside out of the council, they conferred among themselves,
16 Saying, What shall we do to these men? for that indeed a notable miracle hath been done by them is manifest to all them that dwell in Jerusalem; and we cannot deny it.
17 But that it spread no further among the people, let us straitly threaten them, that they speak henceforth to no man in this name.
18 And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.
19 But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.
20 For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.

God is a far higher authority than Chuck Hagel or Obama. After all, where else does Chuck Hagel receive the right to govern at all?

Praise be to God for men of courage like Joseph Quimby!


40 posted on 11/02/2013 4:44:58 PM PDT by mbj
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To: MestaMachine

Yes, I saw it.

My response was more towards the other poster. Soryy if it wasn’t clear.


41 posted on 11/02/2013 5:06:03 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: hoosierham

“...ANY person or government that wants to register your guns really wants to take them away....”

In order for Person A to take something away from Person B, Person B first must be willing to give it up.

If Person A goes to forceful coercion, Person B has every right to resist - by any means necessary.

Too many good, decent people DIED for this to be given up or given away with pain.

Remember who WE are, who our ancestors were, and why they came here; and more importantly, what they were willing to do - and DID - to SECURE it.

Kinda makes everything crystal clear.


42 posted on 11/02/2013 5:12:39 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; hoosierham

Oops..

“or this to be given up or given away withOUT pain.”


43 posted on 11/02/2013 5:13:56 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The governor of Georgia is their commander in chief unless their units are activated, and then Obummer is their CIC only during that period.

These is a thread today about Obama sending troops back Iraq...

With these bastards I would not be surprised the nine states that are opposing same-sex benefits, those NG units will be called up first...as punishment...

44 posted on 11/02/2013 5:20:47 PM PDT by Popman
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To: livius

I’ll believe that when Gov. Perry of Texas dispatches his National Guard to the Texas borders to stop 0bama’s willful influx of illegals to turn the state blue.


45 posted on 11/02/2013 10:07:05 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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