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Various driveby media television networks ^ | 20 October 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/20/2013 5:22:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: SMM48

Yes, delivery is a problem, understanding the freedoms and liberties outlined in the US Constitution isn’t easy without a recent memory of King George...


101 posted on 10/20/2013 8:46:26 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: hillarynot

Mine too. Although he DID sell his practice to a large conglomerate hospital chain so he could get some big bucks before the poop hits the fan.


102 posted on 10/20/2013 8:49:05 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Morgan in Denver
Now is also the time to explain to voters that a single payer plan would be even worse. With government mandating coverages and not caring about profitability, the consumer gets the worst of both worlds: worse care and higher prices. Democrats will demonize insurance companies but there is no example of government being more competitive than private insurers.

Morning to you buddy.How are things in the mile high environment?

This is exactly where things are headed.

O'care was set up so that if it works it leads to a single payer--big government.

O'care was set up so that if it fails it lead to a single payer--big government!

O'care is failing. When the insurance companies go broke or are deemded not qualifying to govt. standards we get single payer big government. Surprisingly, all roads lead to single payer. I'm shocked.

These guys have worked on this since Hillary care and its all done by commie lawyers so this is what you get.

103 posted on 10/20/2013 8:53:44 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Plus: people requesting medical care will have to be approved by gov overseers, who will check voting and political persuasion records in making the decision.


104 posted on 10/20/2013 8:56:21 AM PDT by maica
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To: RitaOK

Bravo Rita and that remains the plan! The war on rinos is still alive intact and in full swing.


105 posted on 10/20/2013 8:56:25 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk

Gotta tellya Fish it scares me just how many people are out there lauding common core as if its all about education and not brainwashing Islamic style.Just scary.Just heard Jeb Bush glorify it about an hour ago.I guess the real truth about just what common core is needs to be gotten out there in a big way.


106 posted on 10/20/2013 8:59:53 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: chiller
E.J. Dionne appears to harbor a load of bitterness for the T-Party. He has zero use for us. Feeling is mutual, E.J.<

The Dems (along with the IRS) have been targeting the tea party ever since 2010. Remember the Black Caucus members marching through a tea party demonstration at the Capitol trying to elicit racial remarks? The Dems truly fear the tea party because it is a true grassroots movement. And because it non-hierarchical and diffuse, they can't train their guns on one individual or group. The Dems are used to their astro-turfed mobs drummed up by the unions and interest groups.

The message of the tea party is the most powerful one. It brings into focus our real problems of massive debt and the impact of the welfare state on our financial future and individual rights. We are at an ideological divide that cannot be bridged by compromise and bipartisanship. We must win. The status quo is losing.

What's your feeling, kabar, regarding the mid-terms and the cueing up of issues? Dems seem to win with debt limit/shutdown but their recent kicking the can just 3 months down the road doesn't set it up as a campaign issue. Whereas, Obamacare will remain and perhaps grow as an issue throughout next year until it's repealed. '10 redux X 2, imho.

The American public has a short attention span. The shutdown and the debt ceiling debate will fade in the background by the time people start focusing on the midterms in September 2014.

Obamacare could become the major campaign issue if it continues to fail. Since it affects so many people, it will be hard to spin. I have said that Obama could very well decide to make the individual mandate optional for a year just to prevent the system from collapsing. But he will make it seem like a concession to wring something out of the GOP.

There will be some battles within the GOP during the Senate primaries that could divide the party more, especially if some big names lose. The Dems will try to capitalize on that.

I am also concerned about the budget deal that may be struck between Ryan and Murray. Both parties want to get rid of sequestration. The Reps hate the impact it is having on DOD while the Dems hate the reduced spending on welfare programs. We could have some phony deal that will essentially result in the lifting of sequestration for some future promises on entitlement and tax reform. I think we are being set up for that reality. I don't trust Ryan and the GOPe, which likes Big Government and big spending. Most of Congress likes to bring back the pork to their districts. A bad deal could cause a lot of Reps to stay home.

If history is any guide, the opposition party should pick up seats in this midterm, i.e., after the reelection of a President. We shall see. The Stupid Party could pass immigration reform that will legalize the status of the 11 to 20 million illegal aliens as well as increasing the number of guest workers to take even more American jobs. With over 20 million Americans unemployed or underemployed, this could wreak havoc in 2014.

The GOP must unite in public and stop demeaning their conservative colleagues with personal attacks. The Dems never do this. 2014 may be the most important midterm elections in our history. If Obama regains the House and retains the Senate, it is game, set, and match for this country--if it isn't already.

107 posted on 10/20/2013 9:00:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: rodguy911

Hey rodguy 911.

The mile high still exists and the snow from last week has melted.

I’m having fun telling lesbians that no real lesbian would consider voting for Hillary. Hillary has stabbed lesbians in the back over and over and she supports governments that persecute lesbians and homosexuals. I go on to say Hillary would put them back into the closet to keep them under control. The responses I’ve gotten so far is not pretty. ROFLOL


108 posted on 10/20/2013 9:01:34 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

LOl just too good!O care in slo-mo!!


109 posted on 10/20/2013 9:02:11 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

And this current government run health care insurance exchange is one prime example to also explain why single payer also doesn’t work. Take Social Security, folks have put billions of dollars into it, and if you actually checked the balance sheet, there’s nothing there but IOU’s.

Now get your health care insurance through a government exchange and when you actually need to use it, you can get in line only after paying your deductible.


110 posted on 10/20/2013 9:05:46 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Dick Durbin,Chuck Schumer,Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham,Rep. Nancy Pelosi,Jeb Bush,John McCain . . .

Same ole same old.


111 posted on 10/20/2013 9:06:38 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (At least it's not written in Perl.)
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To: maica

If you will notice carefully even Charles Krauthammer has revised his estimate of Ocare taking over 1/6 of the economy. He now states its 18% even higher. This is what its all about never true health care. The regime does not care if anyone lives or dies only what benefit they can get out of willing dupes.


112 posted on 10/20/2013 9:10:14 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Morgan in Denver
Then I take it you won't be marching in that ever increasing line of Lesbians for Hillary as it rolls down your street or mine!Harleys all a blazin'! LOl!
113 posted on 10/20/2013 9:14:52 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Oh RG!

About Common Core!

I decide, hey I’m going to write about Common Core. Granddaughter now across the street from me.

Me and daughter both go to Board of Education meeting, advertised about Common Core.

People tell me “don’t go to the BofE meetings. It’s all lies!”

But I think, hey, I want to be fair, to study this, to figure out what THEY are saying, and the reality.

BOFE, only twenty people or so come in. It was so awful, obvious plants in the “audience” of few.

Three members or the audience all ask what Common Core does for “exceptional” children and I’m thinking, serious, the first thing these people ask, three times at that, is about “exceptional” children?

Sure, all parents think they’re kids are “exceptional”, this thing must have focus=grouped very well.

My daughter, she dunno. She’s a busy Mom, wants the best for her child, willing to get involved, has heard a lot of bad about Common Core.

So the administrator of this and the administrator of that get up there and tell us how wonderful Common Core is....

....they called it “Common Core “ the Indian River Way.

Cute.

so on the way home I ask daughter. so okay, now we go to one of these many meetings up and down Delaware about this cursed Common Core?

She rears her head...”:Oh no, Mom. I had no problem with that presentation and I don’t think teachers will do anything bad to their students.”

She said this.

I responded what about that thing where they’re taking all these statistics? Longitudinal Student Data Some Silly Name...

Daughter says “What do they care if the school knows I’m Republican?”

I meekly mention the IRS and Tea Party but RG, by then it was a lost cause.

She said she was okay with ME going to those Common Core meetings where they tell you how bad it is but she’s okay with the Board of Education.

Let this be a lesson to all on how this works, how they do this....and hope it makes up for the black cat story.

Have given up on Common Core....at least temporarily.


114 posted on 10/20/2013 9:15:43 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Son House

Sad thing is Son that’s what the regime counts on that only you and I have checked the balance sheet. The rest are watching the NFL or skinny gals in a romance magazine.


115 posted on 10/20/2013 9:16:34 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Lesbians voting for Hillary is like Christians with daughters supporting Anthony Weiner.


116 posted on 10/20/2013 9:19:39 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Fishtalk; All

We can’t give upon CC its diabolical and all part of how the regime takes over the county incrementally. Scary,wish I had those really good links handy about what it really is.


117 posted on 10/20/2013 9:20:03 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: SMM48

Not to excuse Rubio but yes he was set up. He showed up in DC as a naive rookie and his staff was selected for him. He was gently choked into compliance like a tree being choked to death by a vine. That’s SOP in the way Leadership handles greenhorns. Few show up in DC with enough on the ball to escape it.


118 posted on 10/20/2013 9:20:28 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Fishtalk; All

http://www.theblaze.com/news/common-core/

Here’s a start over at the blaze about 20 or 30 threads exposing what is really behind CC.


119 posted on 10/20/2013 9:26:06 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: All

Here’s some more from right here. What I was looking for is surely in here just don’t know which thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/commoncore/index?tab=articles


120 posted on 10/20/2013 9:29:50 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Brings up Frank Luntz Focus Group, most are the products of a Democrat supporting media, unknown if they are aware of that. My apology if I seem preoccupied with this bunch, but some of them seem so uninformed it’s almost unbelievable. And that may be, like reality TV. Truth is, I can’t stand to watch them on my own, and am only conscious of them today thanks to Fox and Friends.


121 posted on 10/20/2013 9:34:06 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Son House
Gotta admit they are very revealing,Hannity has this group on all the time. The libs must go nuts when he cuts them off,kinda funny.Libs are almost powerless when they are in an environment where both sides are revealed.
Actually. Martha Radish/ABC was cutting some black obama clone chick off pretty frequently this morning it was hilarious.
122 posted on 10/20/2013 9:52:11 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

I get tired of Hannity’s groups faster. He’s been having a bunch of kids on who have no real experience, they reject authoritative sources out of hand, like Heritage, and spew the current Democrat talking points even if provably wrong or even a lie.


123 posted on 10/20/2013 10:10:51 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Is there anyway we can get Bibi to run for president?


Bibi IS my president. (And I ain’t Jewish and don’t live in Israel.)


124 posted on 10/20/2013 10:13:20 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: RitaOK

IF, we can remove McConnell and Graham, a titanic shift comes to the Surrender Caucus.


It would be a good thing indeed, but most people on our side don’t understand it is really a two-step process in MOST cases, so they end up telling themselves the RINO “argument” is somehow compelling.

In the two-step process (1) you get rid of McConnell at all cost—including that the seat ends up going to a Dem. So be it. We can barely distinguish McConnell from the Dems in any case. Only 18 Senate R’s voted with us anyway. Fight hard for those 18, fight to “primary” any and all RINOs, and, (2) work long-range to regain the seats lost to the Dems with for-real conservatives.

Instead people imagine that the R’s can capture net-5 seats and “win” the Senate but they can’t and even if they could, so what? All but 18 would be Surrender Caucus types and would cave to media pressure when meaningful issues were up for a vote.


125 posted on 10/20/2013 10:30:38 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Steven Tyler

And Doctors have started to demand all the deductable up front, on account, before your first appointment


Would make a great ad


126 posted on 10/20/2013 10:37:17 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Fishtalk

She rears her head...”:Oh no, Mom. I had no problem with that presentation and I don’t think teachers will do anything bad to their students.”

She said this.

I responded what about that thing where they’re taking all these statistics? Longitudinal Student Data Some Silly Name...

Daughter says “What do they care if the school knows I’m Republican?”

I meekly mention the IRS and Tea Party but RG, by then it was a lost cause.

She said she was okay with ME going to those Common Core meetings where they tell you how bad it is but she’s okay with the Board of Education.

Let this be a lesson to all on how this works, how they do this....and hope it makes up for the black cat story.

Have given up on Common Core....at least temporarily.


I hate to say it but your daughter’s attitude evokes the average Soviet citizen even in the later stages of the Marxist “empire.”

There was simply no fight in much of the population and even if he had one potato to his name the average Russian saw that as “too much to risk.”


127 posted on 10/20/2013 10:40:11 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for thread A.B.


128 posted on 10/20/2013 10:42:40 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: kabar

Of course they hate the TP, it shut down their precious gummit.

Pray America is Waking Up


129 posted on 10/20/2013 10:59:23 AM PDT by bray (Coming Jan 2014: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

excellant summary.


Thanks


130 posted on 10/20/2013 11:07:50 AM PDT by patriotspride
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131 posted on 10/20/2013 11:10:49 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Dick Durbin,Chuck Schumer,Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham,Rep. Nancy Pelosi,Jeb Bush,John McCain . . .

Same ole same old.


A great start for a septic tank cleanout


132 posted on 10/20/2013 11:48:53 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Son House

Part of what you are viewing is your vast education here and elsewhere. We are that 1% that has in-depth knowledge of what is really going on. We don’t even realize it until we see what the rest just do not know.


133 posted on 10/20/2013 11:57:52 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Morgan in Denver

I still say the problem with Hannity is the inevitable comparison of he and Rush,Sean is just not there yet.
If I had to guess I would venture to say that Hannity is trying to do a bit more than he is capable of as well.


134 posted on 10/20/2013 12:00:54 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Morgan in Denver

I get tired of Hannity’s groups faster. He’s been having a bunch of kids on who have no real experience, they reject authoritative sources out of hand, like Heritage, and spew the current Democrat talking points even if provably wrong or even a lie.


He also lets them get off the real points


135 posted on 10/20/2013 12:08:53 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: PaleoBob

LOL!!!!!


136 posted on 10/20/2013 12:14:59 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: PaleoBob; rodguy911; Fishtalk

PB, right on!
Ft, absolutely!
rod, YES!

We are not done, but far from it and able to take a punch when necessary for the end game.

I am so willing to clean up aisle #13 and get rid of these surrender mules that even yielding a democrat here or there suits me damn fine.
This was always going to be a long game anyway, and no one should expect it to be pain free or an easy path. To heck with their intimidation. It’s inspiring to see them blinking all over the place.

I mean McCain is on the verge of a mental episode.

Thx to you guys who don’t whine. :D


137 posted on 10/20/2013 12:18:31 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
That train is carrying the O’bots to their doctor appointments. What they weren't told is that only 3 doctors showed up and they're all proctologists.
138 posted on 10/20/2013 2:00:13 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: maica

......people requesting medical care will have to be approved by gov overseers, who will check voting and political persuasion records in making the decision.

I used to think this was “tin foil hat thinking”, but now I think it is in the realm of possibility.

I am afraid of my own government.


139 posted on 10/20/2013 2:12:32 PM PDT by pugmama
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To: RitaOK

I gotta tell ya Rubio was a sad thing to see.Even if he does come to his senses it will be tough to trust him anymore.But you are right its never straight up, “always a bump in the road.”


140 posted on 10/20/2013 2:55:05 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: pugmama

We already have the example of what IRS workers did within the parameters of ‘their job’ to people whose political perspective was not ‘approved.’ It is definitely not tin-foil thinking.


141 posted on 10/20/2013 5:42:02 PM PDT by maica
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To: patriotspride

She must think Lindsey Graham is going to join McCain and Lieberman and she gets on the ticket.

Ayotte booed at Strong NH meeting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnL_YPW7BNk


142 posted on 10/20/2013 6:05:15 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Alas Babylon!

Was Ted Cruz not interviewed? I saw no comments about that.


143 posted on 10/21/2013 5:19:26 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Ayotte booed at Strong NH meeting.


The turncoat deserves it


144 posted on 10/21/2013 6:04:58 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: kabar

How does Rubio feel when Schumer and Durbin taunt the GOP Senators in general about caving. Does he ever call them out?


145 posted on 10/21/2013 4:43:10 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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